Penimaster pro

Dickleaker - man I respect your opinion 100% - you know how well the VLC has worked out for me, given that, do you think I should go for the Penimaster Pro? Thanks man

rebel2011;469082 said:

It sounds like there must be a check valve in between the attachment point of the turkey baster and the vacuum chamber? I ask because check valves are horrible about leaking a small amount back out before they seal. The Bathmate is a prime example. There is always a small air bubble at the top

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That's right. The valve is a screw-down cap with a piece of rubber or foam inside which is forced against the air inlet. The bulb is used as a giant nut to screw the valve 90 degrees open then closed. One of the other problems is the valve's screw-down timing must be exact. What I mean is the bulb attachment fits onto the nut without regard to where the nut is with respect to the valve's open or close status. You can unscrew the valve an extra 90 degrees accidentally. This means when you attach the bulb and rotate it 90 degrees more you are unaware when you rotate it back it won't be closed. This means after applying the device you have to remove it and start over.

Dickleaker has the basis in Penis Enlargement to understand what he's talking about with respect to 'inner penis'. However, I feel this subject becomes immediately misunderstood by newcomers. The portion of penis which resides inside the body is not being pulled out of your body. You are not re-arranging your anatomy with Penis Enlargement. The concept originated with the BTC type stretching and the effects it rapidly achieved. Actually, by stretching your suspensory ligaments you acquire increased usable length by lowering the "exit point" and somewhat straightening the line between the inner and outer. As hangers will tell you, some of this length is simply an illusion. But a very acceptable one because lowering the exit point gives the visual of a much longer penis than has actually been obtained. This is where the expression "pulling out the inner penis" originated, but the fact is: it hasn't moved. The stretched ligament produces less of a limiting factor.

Keep in mind that long before your body would allow a portion to be removed by pulling, it would either rip or grow. You cannot relocate parts of your body. Besides, if you could externalize the inner portion, what would replace the space it would leave behind? Growth occurs slowly and your body would not appreciate the idea something is being removed. It actually sees this on a minute-by-minute basis as stress. Stress causes several reaction stages in the order of efficiency: 1) strengthening 2) thickening 3) stretching 4) growing. Each method is tried until it fails, leading the body to move to the next most efficient over time. Growth is the least efficient, so it is the last resort*. Strengthening is the first and is the reason many newcomers give up after a couple of weeks or so: they never get past this stage. Also, it must be understood different tissues have different reaction times. For example, skin moves through the stages quickly whereas ligaments tend to take much longer. Skeletal muscle is in-between the two. According to the medical community, smooth muscle should not be stretched. Likewise, in the interest of efficiency the body will re-absorb some or all gains when the stress is removed: just as it does with bodybuilders**.

There are four significant factors which limit the size of your erect penis: 1) attachment ligaments/septum 2) the smooth muscle of the tunicae 3) healthy blood pressure 4) excitement level

Items 1 and 2 are easily stretched with force over time. Item 3 can be increased with exercise. Item 4 can be increased by eliminating masturbation.

Anything which pulls from the glans pulls the entire penis. The glans is firmly attached via the septum which in turn is attached via ligaments. There is no such thing as pulling only a portion of the penis, the glans must transfer its experienced force to the septum which in turn must transfer the force to the ligaments which then transfer it to the bone. Some of the force is dissipated along the way, but it must take this route. For example, you can't pull just a section of a rope, no matter what: it transfers all the way to the other end. Pulls can feel differently, but it doesn't mean they're working better or worse than another with respect to inspiring growth. After years of Penis Enlargement, I can comfortably say that I've gained without feeling anything in particular and I've been sore as hell without results.


*Visitors to the gym will know that muscles get stronger before they get bigger. It's more efficient for the body to create more nerve connections than it is to add muscle tissue. However, after the body has exhausted its more efficient methods, the muscle grows to accommodate the stress.
**Protein intake can also affect the speed of this reduction.

Dickleaker;469107 said:

Moregains

I am having similar problems but I am no one near the size of ur glans :/

One thing that I tried tonight was leaving the pump ball on the glans attachment for 30 seconds to create a better vacuum and that seems to work much better.Like the vid says leave it on even tho ur glans has already been sucked inside ...its still creating more vacuum.

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So dickleaker u are now having problems with it?

Dickleaker;469107 said:

Like the vid says leave it on even tho ur glans has already been sucked inside ...its still creating more vacuum.

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I think they're actually wanting your glans to expand under the current vacuum condition. Once the bulb returns to its resting size or it's removed there is no additional vacuum. By expanding it reduces issues such as blistering which can occur anytime there is a void, it also allows it to create surface tension within the dome, and makes a plug which can help prevent it from starting the process of slipping out.

My problem seems to be that I'm already filling the device. But as I said, I'll go at it very methodically this weekend and get if figured out with certainty.

SA,
Thanks for your support! I would say if you like the VLC and you are getting gains with it and you also like growing the bit extra foreskin then stick with it and milk it for everything it got for you!!

If your gains plateau in the future then you have this device as a backup plan to try out.
For me
I got the peni pro because I didn't get any gains stretching with the VLC like some other guys altho I did get some awesome new foreskin but I wanted that and am restoring back to uncut.My next measure date is coming up on the 20th and if there are gains then I will attribute them to the VLC tugger/SizeGenetics - Penis Traction Extender.
Hope that helps you out so you are not doubting your path here .
I think you have to believe in the methods you pursue and feel confident they will give you gains cause its your mind pushing all your cock growing behavior.

shavenasian;469134 said:

Dickleaker - man I respect your opinion 100% - you know how well the VLC has worked out for me, given that, do you think I should go for the Penimaster Pro? Thanks man

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Celtank,

Dude you have a big cock

I solved the problems I was having initially with this thing.
It arrived during a couple of super busy days for me so I didn't have the focus I normally have and should apply to a new device.
I was removing the vacuum ball way too early and now leave it on for at least 30 seconds to create a better vacuum.

Last night I went 3 hours with NO BREAKS and zero discomfort which is truly amazing for a torture device like the SG...think about the choices we had only a year ago with extenders...most gave you a cold blue numb glans with alot of suffering while you were extending.We live in good times with these 2 options now!!!

When I took off the peni pro(name is weird for me :/ ) my dick head was expanded and pumped up 1 1/2" times its normal size.Would be cool to get a bigger glans from wearing this as a bonus!!

Now the only issue I have with it is getting it off...takes me a couple of minutes to pull my glans out after a session...anybody experience this?

Like others have said using this I feel the stretch all the way to my asshole-inner penis !

celttank;469153 said:

So dickleaker u are now having problems with it?

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Haha yeah it's pretty big but i want more! Almost at 8.5 nbp.
I'm very close to buying this, i'm gettin sick of the burning pain when i'm in the sg for only an hour.
Bigger glans would be a great bonus.
How long did delivery take by the way?

celttank;469164 said:

Bigger glans would be a great bonus.

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It would need to be expanding at least beyond your fully excited erect size. The glans is a very difficult part to enlarge permanently. It is very elastic.

shavenasian;469134 said:

Dickleaker - man I respect your opinion 100% - you know how well the VLC has worked out for me, given that, do you think I should go for the Penimaster Pro? Thanks man

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What are you gains using the VLC?

I don't see why people complain about the sg so much >.> the cold glands doesn't bother me until like 2 hours in. Even then I just take it off for a minute and it's ready to go again without any pain. Maybe I'm used to pain.. I love getting shots and when I got my piercing it felt so good. I like the burning feeling, it feels like.. somethings working.

Deonz

You may not mind the cold glans and numbness but its not healthy for your penis to have its blood supply cut off for long periods of time.

Deonz;469218 said:

I don't see why people complain about the sg so much >.> the cold glands doesn't bother me until like 2 hours in. Even then I just take it off for a minute and it's ready to go again without any pain. Maybe I'm used to pain.. I love getting shots and when I got my piercing it felt so good. I like the burning feeling, it feels like.. somethings working.

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I will measure next week and that will mark 4 months of using it.

Last time I measured in november 5th I had none,altho my flaccid size was quite a bit bigger

Supra;469209 said:

What are you gains using the VLC?

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Dickleaker;469220 said:

Deonz

You may not mind the cold glans and numbness but its not healthy for your penis to have its blood supply cut off for long periods of time.

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True, maybe for a really long time. I don't keep it on long enough for that to happen though. I did order the VLC for being able to have it on for even longer without the blood cut off, not sure how fast it ships, my address is in NYC, so hopefully quickly. Though this is off topic, how long can you keep either the VLC or The Penimaster Pro on? Long term, which is more cost efficient based on your usage? Well.. I can't say you should base it on your length gains, but any help with comparing costs would help. I don't think I'll be getting the Penimaster Pro anytime soon, but maybe in the future I could invest, if it's even better and promotes better/faster gains.

Dickleaker;469162 said:

Celtank,

Dude you have a big cock

I solved the problems I was having initially with this thing.
It arrived during a couple of super busy days for me so I didn't have the focus I normally have and should apply to a new device.
I was removing the vacuum ball way too early and now leave it on for at least 30 seconds to create a better vacuum.

Last night I went 3 hours with NO BREAKS and zero discomfort which is truly amazing for a torture device like the SG...think about the choices we had only a year ago with extenders...most gave you a cold blue numb glans with alot of suffering while you were extending.We live in good times with these 2 options now!!!

When I took off the peni pro(name is weird for me :/ ) my dick head was expanded and pumped up 1 1/2" times its normal size.Would be cool to get a bigger glans from wearing this as a bonus!!

Now the only issue I have with it is getting it off...takes me a couple of minutes to pull my glans out after a session...anybody experience this?

Like others have said using this I feel the stretch all the way to my asshole-inner penis !

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Wore my SG with the VLC for 4 hours non stop with no comfort problems :D

"Like others have said using this I feel the stretch all the way to my asshole-inner penis !"
^ is that using the Penimaster or the SG/VLC?

Good for you Gravik...you have come a long way with this device and deserve a bigger cock because of your
perseverance(I hope it works that way haha).

The stretch I feel all the way to my asshole is from the peni pro/SG. Its a different stretch then the VLC/SG.
Only time will tell if it transmits to gains but already my flaccid is about 1/2" bigger after only a few days.

Good luck to you my friend.

Gravik;469237 said:

Wore my SG with the VLC for 4 hours non stop with no comfort problems :D

"Like others have said using this I feel the stretch all the way to my asshole-inner penis !"
^ is that using the Penimaster or the SG/VLC?

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Dickleaker - have you tried the bridge stretches with the vlc/penimaster?

The "stretch all the way to the asshole" is a sign that you're finally getting the connective 'ropes' engaged for a good period of time. I only get that feeling now after many hours of low traction but it's very mild. Years ago when I finally got the hang of things I got that good burn feeling. This is skeletal muscle tissue being stretched. As the muscles stretch it will reduce in intensity. I miss that feel.

No Squashbuddie(hope you aren't squashing your cock?!)

What are those?

Squashbuddie;469358 said:

Dickleaker - have you tried the bridge stretches with the vlc/penimaster?

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Moregains,

Any luck with the head attachment?Your glans at 6 1/2" in circumference is massive!!

Are the the connective ropes what attach to the pelvic bone?

Yeah it is a really good stretch and one I didn't feel with the VLC attachment.
We will see if it translates to gains.

MoreGains123;469359 said:

The "stretch all the way to the asshole" is a sign that you're finally getting the connective 'ropes' engaged for a good period of time. I only get that feeling now after many hours of low traction but it's very mild. Years ago when I finally got the hang of things I got that good burn feeling. This is skeletal muscle tissue being stretched. As the muscles stretch it will reduce in intensity. I miss that feel.

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