Penimaster pro

celttank;468954 said:
how much did u pay for it? was it the upgrade kit?
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Upgrade Kit 1. About $200 USD.

I'm sure if you fit it's totally cool. I'm trying to think of ways to make it work for me.
 
ok what do I need to get just to get the head attachement?
 
MoreGains123;468724 said:
I love the principle, but I don't think it's very well executed. For example, the valve is a joke. It's not really a valve it's just a screw-down which if screwed too far can end up inside the ball. (You then take apart the ball to get it out.)

I will try your ideas, thanks.
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Is it worth the buy? Should I get it?
 
I got the whole thing, if you want attach it to your SG its just the upgrade kit 1. I Will tell you my first opinion after i try it in a couple of days.
 
Supra;468984 said:
Is it worth the buy? Should I get it?
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I'm not sure, other than a few guys here in this thread, I keep reading bad reviews. The concept seemed to be a vast improvement over prior implementations, but I think this one has its troubles too. The video looks very good, but then what would you expect from a promotional (and I don't fault them for getting someone who could demonstrate it so well).

What I find most frustrating is the fact the suction ball doesn't have enough force or volume to do the job on the first try every time. This leads to more handling and fumbling which as we all know is the aggravation of a lot of Penis Enlargement gear: the need for 3 hands. Perhaps they should include the hose/straw with every vacuum head and not as an option. I found myself wondering if that would help since it would free a hand. Then I wondered if: 1) I really would want to "suck dick-air" :) and 2) and more importantly, would my mouth be able to provide adequate vacuum?

One of the issues with the vacuum bulb and your mouth is the volume. (The included bulb ball has about as much volume as a mouth probably does.) I find that while the bulb volume is sufficient for a perfect application it leaves much to be desired if you mess it up even a little. (You don't squeeze it quite enough; your hand slips a little; your glans isn't quite tight against the device: you know, the kind of things that happen whenever you apply something several times a day for months.) At this point, I'm not sure using my mouth to draw the glans in would work either simply because it seems to require a great deal of vacuum to get it to work. "A great deal" is relative to this device, it's not a great deal compared to vacuum pumping.

While I'm pretty certain if my glans were smaller I would be happier with it, it still troubles me that it pulls out so easily once applied. I'm still not sure why this is. I can see the glans is totally inside the device, the valve is locked, there is vacuum tension. With the application of a very small amount of external tension (like an extender's worth) the entire latex arrangement begins to stretch backward out of the headpiece. This eventually leads to my glans slipping out. This one still confuses me and leads me to again wonder if the volume of my glans is the issue.

At this point, I'd say it's not ready for prime-time because of the aforementioned issues and its steep price, but it's very promising as an idea. Although as soon as I write that, I remember that this idea has been around for years. The device is simply a cleverly constructed tight condom in a vacuum head, but that's not to degrade it. A lot of effort went into this product. I got it because of their video. I thought it would be faster and simpler to apply than any other device I have. But it's not, and the worst part is that it's not a straight-forward time-consumer like a Bib can be. It's a hit-or-miss application with numerous retries which eventually end up in massive frustration.

For the record: I own a lot of gear. I have used a Bib for years, I've used the SS heavy for years, and in my earlier Penis Enlargement days I used vacuum hangers and other ADS devices. I am also a mechanical engineer.
 
I'd be interested to hear what fonic has to say. I wonder is it still working for him.
 
MG,
I got mine yesterday.

Early report...easy to use and super comfortable to wear-easy to forget I am wearing this and an extender.Night and day compared to a noose or comfort strap!

If your glans is slipping out here's a couple of things

You might have too much lubricant going on.I put a small amount on my glans only ,not the entrance to the glans piece .
Also there are 2 sets of inner rings you can insert to make the opening into the glans piece smaller.They are put on the head attachment and then the diaphram latex is put over the head piece.This is shown in the video they send but its not explained that its an option to make the opening smaller.

Don't give up...I'll help you if I can and you can also send the company an email at the helpdesk.
Here's the link
helpdesk@msp-concept.de

MoreGains123;469009 said:
I'm not sure, other than a few guys here in this thread, I keep reading bad reviews. The concept seemed to be a vast improvement over prior implementations, but I think this one has its troubles too. The video looks very good, but then what would you expect from a promotional (and I don't fault them for getting someone who could demonstrate it so well).

What I find most frustrating is the fact the suction ball doesn't have enough force or volume to do the job on the first try every time. This leads to more handling and fumbling which as we all know is the aggravation of a lot of Penis Enlargement gear: the need for 3 hands. Perhaps they should include the hose/straw with every vacuum head and not as an option. I found myself wondering if that would help since it would free a hand. Then I wondered if: 1) I really would want to "suck dick-air" :) and 2) and more importantly, would my mouth be able to provide adequate vacuum?

One of the issues with the vacuum bulb and your mouth is the volume. (The included bulb ball has about as much volume as a mouth probably does.) I find that while the bulb volume is sufficient for a perfect application it leaves much to be desired if you mess it up even a little. (You don't squeeze it quite enough; your hand slips a little; your glans isn't quite tight against the device: you know, the kind of things that happen whenever you apply something several times a day for months.) At this point, I'm not sure using my mouth to draw the glans in would work either simply because it seems to require a great deal of vacuum to get it to work. "A great deal" is relative to this device, it's not a great deal compared to vacuum pumping.

While I'm pretty certain if my glans were smaller I would be happier with it, it still troubles me that it pulls out so easily once applied. I'm still not sure why this is. I can see the glans is totally inside the device, the valve is locked, there is vacuum tension. With the application of a very small amount of external tension (like an extender's worth) the entire latex arrangement begins to stretch backward out of the headpiece. This eventually leads to my glans slipping out. This one still confuses me and leads me to again wonder if the volume of my glans is the issue.

At this point, I'd say it's not ready for prime-time because of the aforementioned issues and its steep price, but it's very promising as an idea. Although as soon as I write that, I remember that this idea has been around for years. The device is simply a cleverly constructed tight condom in a vacuum head, but that's not to degrade it. A lot of effort went into this product. I got it because of their video. I thought it would be faster and simpler to apply than any other device I have. But it's not, and the worst part is that it's not a straight-forward time-consumer like a Bib can be. It's a hit-or-miss application with numerous retries which eventually end up in massive frustration.

For the record: I own a lot of gear. I have used a Bib for years, I've used the SS heavy for years, and in my earlier Penis Enlargement days I used vacuum hangers and other ADS devices. I am also a mechanical engineer.
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MoreGains123;469009 said:
I'm not sure, other than a few guys here in this thread, I keep reading bad reviews. The concept seemed to be a vast improvement over prior implementations, but I think this one has its troubles too. The video looks very good, but then what would you expect from a promotional (and I don't fault them for getting someone who could demonstrate it so well).

What I find most frustrating is the fact the suction ball doesn't have enough force or volume to do the job on the first try every time. This leads to more handling and fumbling which as we all know is the aggravation of a lot of Penis Enlargement gear: the need for 3 hands. Perhaps they should include the hose/straw with every vacuum head and not as an option. I found myself wondering if that would help since it would free a hand. Then I wondered if: 1) I really would want to "suck dick-air" :) and 2) and more importantly, would my mouth be able to provide adequate vacuum?

One of the issues with the vacuum bulb and your mouth is the volume. (The included bulb ball has about as much volume as a mouth probably does.) I find that while the bulb volume is sufficient for a perfect application it leaves much to be desired if you mess it up even a little. (You don't squeeze it quite enough; your hand slips a little; your glans isn't quite tight against the device: you know, the kind of things that happen whenever you apply something several times a day for months.) At this point, I'm not sure using my mouth to draw the glans in would work either simply because it seems to require a great deal of vacuum to get it to work. "A great deal" is relative to this device, it's not a great deal compared to vacuum pumping.

While I'm pretty certain if my glans were smaller I would be happier with it, it still troubles me that it pulls out so easily once applied. I'm still not sure why this is. I can see the glans is totally inside the device, the valve is locked, there is vacuum tension. With the application of a very small amount of external tension (like an extender's worth) the entire latex arrangement begins to stretch backward out of the headpiece. This eventually leads to my glans slipping out. This one still confuses me and leads me to again wonder if the volume of my glans is the issue.

At this point, I'd say it's not ready for prime-time because of the aforementioned issues and its steep price, but it's very promising as an idea. Although as soon as I write that, I remember that this idea has been around for years. The device is simply a cleverly constructed tight condom in a vacuum head, but that's not to degrade it. A lot of effort went into this product. I got it because of their video. I thought it would be faster and simpler to apply than any other device I have. But it's not, and the worst part is that it's not a straight-forward time-consumer like a Bib can be. It's a hit-or-miss application with numerous retries which eventually end up in massive frustration.

For the record: I own a lot of gear. I have used a Bib for years, I've used the SS heavy for years, and in my earlier Penis Enlargement days I used vacuum hangers and other ADS devices. I am also a mechanical engineer.
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So in your opinion since you have used both which is a better head attachment the VLC or the PM Pro?
 
Dickleaker;469029 said:
Also there are 2 sets of inner rings you can insert to make the opening into the glans piece smaller.
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Thanks for helping out. However, I'm not trying to make the opening smaller. At least I don't think I am.

My biggest problem is that I can't the glans to draw in. This is due to the vacuum draw issues I discussed earlier. Once I release the bulb the glans just stays drawn to the opening and the bulb remains flattened after I let go. At this point I try to more aggressively insert the glans which usually results in a burp of air getting in. The bulb then half-fills and at that point there's not enough volume left in it to draw in the glans. And 'round and 'round I go. There are variations, but you get the idea.

My second problem is out of the few times I did manage to get everything right and it drew in, the glans slipped out with little force. It would stay on if I didn't tug it, so it isn't a leak. Several times I tested it with just the vacuum bulb and no penis just to make sure it was pulling the inner latex into a balloon shape: it was. The issue is the entire latex sleeve (not the inner-most latex diaphragm) stretches back out of the dome. This lengthens and thins the penis which in turn allows the entire process to fail. I had expected the glans to fill the dome and produce a sort of plug that the vacuum would hold. I was surprised how this sleeve portion pulled back out so easily. It hadn't occurred to me prior that there isn't a designed stop for this condition. Therefore, I concluded they are relying upon the glans ballooning in the dome. If you look at their video the guy's glans is rather bulbous which I'm sure is the result of them shooting the video all day.

I still don't know how to show my own video of this issue. Can you make a video showing how you're applying it?

Regarding the lubricant: since the lubricant will disperse on contact I don't see how putting it on 'side A' rather than 'side B' matters when you're going to press the two together anyway. Please elaborate.
 
Squashbuddie;469027 said:
Moregains - havde you tried writing them?
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Actually, I wrote them the day I got it but it was regarding some missing parts. They did respond by saying they'd ship them the next day.

As I wrote earlier, I'm going to fool with it a lot this weekend so we'll see what happens. I'll write them about this issue after I see what that experience yields.
 
Moregains,

Maybe you are right---maybe you are just too large for the device. The only other advice I could provide is making sure you are not completely flaccid when attempting to put on the device. The manual says to be slightly excited, which helps to draw the glans in better. I have noticed that I am easily able to get the device on and with adequate suction on the first try every time if this is the case. The only time that I noticed that my glans slipped out with minimal tug was when I was completely flaccid when I entered the device. I am able to apply the size genetics device with full tug without any slippage. I am sorry for your difficulty, but I do find that this device has been the answer for me at this point. I have tried other modifications for the size genetics (vlc, autoextender vac modification, and velcro mod) all without this amount of comfort, ease, and pull. This one is top notch in my book.
 
MoreGains123;469049 said:
Thanks for helping out. However, I'm not trying to make the opening smaller. At least I don't think I am.

My biggest problem is that I can't the glans to draw in. This is due to the vacuum draw issues I discussed earlier. Once I release the bulb the glans just stays drawn to the opening and the bulb remains flattened after I let go. At this point I try to more aggressively insert the glans which usually results in a burp of air getting in. The bulb then half-fills and at that point there's not enough volume left in it to draw in the glans. And 'round and 'round I go. There are variations, but you get the idea.

My second problem is out of the few times I did manage to get everything right and it drew in, the glans slipped out with little force. It would stay on if I didn't tug it, so it isn't a leak. Several times I tested it with just the vacuum bulb and no penis just to make sure it was pulling the inner latex into a balloon shape: it was. The issue is the entire latex sleeve (not the inner-most latex diaphragm) stretches back out of the dome. This lengthens and thins the penis which in turn allows the entire process to fail. I had expected the glans to fill the dome and produce a sort of plug that the vacuum would hold. I was surprised how this sleeve portion pulled back out so easily. It hadn't occurred to me prior that there isn't a designed stop for this condition. Therefore, I concluded they are relying upon the glans ballooning in the dome. If you look at their video the guy's glans is rather bulbous which I'm sure is the result of them shooting the video all day.

I still don't know how to show my own video of this issue. Can you make a video showing how you're applying it?

Regarding the lubricant: since the lubricant will disperse on contact I don't see how putting it on 'side A' rather than 'side B' matters when you're going to press the two together anyway. Please elaborate.
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SO there is a pump that creates the vacuum and pulls the head of the penis in?
 
tennisguy;469067 said:
Maybe you are right---maybe you are just too large for the device. The only other advice I could provide is making sure you are not completely flaccid when attempting to put on the device.
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Thank you. I will try it that way too, although I'm about 6.5 on the corona... so we'll see. I understand what you're saying though. Instead of inserting a wet noodle, press in a stick. Perhaps it also aids in filling the chamber with blood instead of void (vacuum). That's a good trade.
 
Supra;469071 said:
SO there is a pump that creates the vacuum and pulls the head of the penis in?
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Yes. There are two methods: a bulb like a turkey baster and a hose that you suck on. It's actually a very clever idea.
 
It sounds like there must be a check valve in between the attachment point of the turkey baster and the vacuum chamber? I ask because check valves are horrible about leaking a small amount back out before they seal. The Bathmate is a prime example. There is always a small air bubble at the top
 
Moregains

I am having similar problems but I am no one near the size of ur glans :/

One thing that I tried tonight was leaving the pump ball on the glans attachment for 30 seconds to create a better vacuum and that seems to work much better.Like the vid says leave it on even tho ur glans has already been sucked inside ...its still creating more vacuum.
MoreGains123;469078 said:
Yes. There are two methods: a bulb like a turkey baster and a hose that you suck on. It's actually a very clever idea.
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Supra,

IMO the peni pro pulls the internal penis and the VLC pulls the skin and more of the outside of the penis.The peni pro is a whole level higher in comfort tho not that I was complaining about the VLC.

Yes there is a pump that creates the vacuum and sucks ur glans inside and then holds it for stretching.

Supra;469031 said:
So in your opinion since you have used both which is a better head attachment the VLC or the PM Pro?
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