hepcat;520483 said:
MikeSchlort, I would love to hear your opinions about this course of action. It seems it would go with your line of thinking. I mean do you think if I started calling bitches bitches to their face it would produce better results or would I just have to knock them down a peg or two some other way? I'm talking about never taking them out to eat anywhere (at least anywhere with decent food or decor), never by them any gifts, tell them to do shit for me that I should be doing for myself, treating them like a piece of meat, etc... Care to give your thoughts on the aforementioned?
You have to do it the right way. I think it would be tricky. You're better off being an asshole than being a nice guy, but it has to be genuine. If they can sense it's a ploy, they will disregard you.
I'm not sure about all the taking her to shitty restaurants stuff, I would think once you have her on the hook enough to go out with you, you're set. I would never buy a woman anything as a gift, but I would probably pay for a date if I was the one who asked her out, making clear that it's a date. I don't worry about this kind of thing anyways. The focus shouldn't be on the activity, it should be on how you are going to hit it off with her. If she likes you and you have a connection, you could take her to a coffee shop and sit and talk for hours.
Getting back to being a prick, it's hard to say. I tend to speak to people in real life how I would speak here, maybe being a bit more careful with my wording because my only source of socializing is the workplace. At my one job, where it is middle aged office staff women, I speak very differently than at my other job where it is high school and college aged labourers, but the message is generally the same and I mean what I say. The delivery is different and there are just things I can't say.
I don't get girls, I'm not good with them but I will tell you, if there is a girl I like, I will go out of my way to say the most awkward, belligerent non sequiturs for her benefit, as long as it were clever and funny enough to make the room laugh. Otherwise, I'd just sit quiet and avoid any eye contact with her. Pretending you don't care about her existence is important, I think. But if she makes the effort to communicate with you, you can't act like an aloof dickhead. I avoid all eye contact and noticing her at all, unless she initiates verbal communication, then at that point I would probably look her in the eyes the whole time like I wanted to fuck her, or if I was in a certain mood, I would continue to avoid eye contact with her and keep the response to a minimal. It's really hard to give any advice, as I don't know shit and it all depends on split second reactions. She also has to be physically attracted to you in the first place, or you're just another sucker trying to talk her into liking you.
I guess to sum it up, you're better served always being completely honest with a twist of humour, or if you're being sarcastic, make it so it's difficult for the person to discern if you're being serious or not. All these little games don't really mean shit though because if I liked a certain girl and felt I had a chance to get her, I'd probably walk up to her and say "date me, you sarcastic prick". This has yet to happen.