So after reading the whole thread I feel like how you explain penis growth also explain the whole “newbie gains” thing.
Most start out in Penis Enlargement by doing basic stretching and jelq.
High force (manual stretching) for a short time like 15-30 minutes per day should be the fastest and surest way to make our dick tougher and long term success less likely. Only way to continue to gain once the dick gets tougher would be a never ending need for using even more force and this is when most give up. A few continue never giving up adding more force and get big gains by using high force short time workouts but most see newbie gainst then hit the wall.
Do you agree this is why there are newbie gains for those “training” like this then they hit the wall?
If high force short time (HFST from now on) type of Penis Enlargement is the reason we hit the wall and need to use more and more force to continue to gain the exact opposite should be done with low force and long time. This way we “never” hit the wall and make our dicks tougher. We might not gain as fast in the first weeks/months but over a year or years we will gain more/faster to reach what ever goal we have since we are always moving forward. Growing as much/fast as we can without making our dick tougher which will just slow down growth.
Sounds about right?
Since extending the penis 24/7 is just not possible in the real world where we need toilet breaks,,sex and so on 12-16 hours is probably a realistic goal.
Extending for 12-16 hours straight with out any small breaks is also not realistic so I wonder how much will short 5-10 minute breaks during the day effect the growth/mitosic cycle?
If the mitosic cycle takes 120 minutes to complete and I start extending at 08.00am and for some reason must take a 5 minute break at 09.45am will the 105minutes I just spent extending be wasted? Will the parent cells pick up where they left off when I start extending again or is it back to square one?
If any parent cell that is in mitosic don’t get the full time they need (120min) and they go back to square one at any break would that not mean if we take breaks more often then every 2 hours we would get zero effect?
So the time we stretch without a break is just as important if not more then the total hours we stretch per day? 10x90minutes give less results then 5x2 hours since extending 90minutes is not enough for a complete mitosic cycle kind of?
How long must it be stretched?? Anything longer then normal flaccid is enough to gain max results?
How long do we need to stretch the penis.?
It says stretching it longer then it normal is will be enough but what do you really mean by that?
If your flaccid length is 3 inches but your erect length and flaccid stretched length is 7 inches then stretching it from 3 to say 5 inches would be “longer then it normal is” but is that enough? Would we not need to stretch it to its maximum flaccid stretched length or even longer?
If we use an
extender we can change the force used so should the length we stretch to be decided by the force and not our flaccid stretched length or erect length?
So we set the
extender to 500 grams for example and how ever long that makes us stretch we accept no matter if that just stretch us from 3 to 4 inches even if our max flaccid stretched lengh is say 7 inches?
Since HFST is a “bad” way to do Penis Enlargement will doing manual stretching in combination with long time extending be useless or downright bad putting us in danger of making our dicks tougher.
I was thinking about starting the day with manual stretching 15-20 minutes then use an
extender all day long. Maybe even do a second session of manual stretching mid day.
Something like stretching+7hour
extender then stretching+7 hour
extender again.
After reading your posts Im not really sure if it would give me any extra positive effect or might just make me hit the wall and slowing down gains?
Once in the
extender should we always stetch to the same length for the day even if we need to change the tension during the day or should we use the same tension all day no matter what length changes we might see during the day.
So if I start with 500gram tension in the morning and by the afternoon it only takes 400gram to keep that length should I turn it back up to 500gram and get a bit longer stretch or keep the same length to the stretch but the lower tension?
They guys that used too sell the static
extender always said you should never let the stretch get shorter it must stay static. They seem to be the only guys preaching this so Im not sure if there is any truth to it. Might just been a marketing thing to sell their static
extender.
You wrote a bit about girth in the thread so I wonder how much do we need to be expanded for mitosic to kick in? Above our normal flaccid girth which would be well under our erect girth or above our erect girth?
One last general question since you seem to know a lot about the inner workings of the penis.
I have long been wondering why 2 dicks with the same errect size can be so different when flaccid.
If everything else is the same. Age,race,body size,clothes and so on and with an erect size of say 6x5 one dick might be 2x2 and the other 5x4 when flaccid.
To me there seem to be 3 type of flaccid dicks.
Extreme grower/turtle dicks often growing 200% from flaccid to erect
Normal often growing 50-100% from flaccid to erect
Shower often close to erect size when flaccid might grow 10-25% from flaccid to erect
The other day I read that a dick can have 1,2 or 3 layers of tunica (not sure of true) with 2 layers being the most common.
When I read this I thought it could explain the grower,normal and shower flaccid dicks.
With the blood preasure being low/normal when flaccid the less layers (or weaker) of tunica one have the bigger once flaccid dick could be. More layers means the normal blood preasure is just not high enough and the dick stay much smaller when flaccid.
Do you or anyone else reading this agree that the layers (or strength) of tunic is the major factor effecting flaccid dick size? Or are there any other theorys for turtle vs shower flaccids?
Jesus that was long,,,happy growing to all.
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