Sometimes i don't believe

LONGERDICK7+ · Nov 23, 2015

I think the BM can give you girth gains if you follow a good routine for a reasonable period of time you can get temporary gains whit the BM,

if you use it in a consistent way youd see permanent gains,have you tried the BM hardcore stretches?

Longth · Nov 23, 2015

shortdick;675349 said:
I think the BM can give you girth gains if you follow a good routine for a reasonable period of time you can get temporary gains whit the BM,

if you use it in a consistent way youd see permanent gains,have you tried the BM hardcore stretches?

Not for a long time. Wouldn't want to with the bite. Really don't want more length so much as I just want more of the 8.15 I have to be showing. If I could get like 7.75 of that to be visible I'd be happy as a pig in shit.

Just going to take a lot of work I probably should do anyway.

kyomoto · Nov 23, 2015

deadwood187;675339 said:
Source? There is ZERO quantifiable evidence that PE works . No study shows this so you are just talking pseudo science.

So just because there is no scientific evidence you don't believe it?

It's sad people are so close minded with these things. How about this deadwood187. How about you test this. Test this whole PE process for 1 year.

It doesn't hurt to spend 30 minutes or 1 hour a day to test this. IF you're so critical about scientific evidence, test this yourself, record the data and see the results.

Make the conclusion yourself. You'll see whether it works or not. Go ahead. But wait...I'm pretty sure you don't want to test this in the first place because you don't believe it.

But why not? IT doesn't hurt to try now does it? There will always be an excuse for skeptics like this.

Longth · Nov 23, 2015

kyomoto;675362 said:
So just because there is no scientific evidence you don't believe it?

It's sad people are so close minded with these things. How about this deadwood187. How about you test this. Test this whole PE process for 1 year.

It doesn't hurt to spend 30 minutes or 1 hour a day to test this. IF you're so critical about scientific evidence, test this yourself, record the data and see the results.

Make the conclusion yourself. You'll see whether it works or not. Go ahead. But wait...I'm pretty sure you don't want to test this in the first place because you don't believe it.

But why not? IT doesn't hurt to try now does it? There will always be an excuse for skeptics like this.

Dude there's been studies on extending. That's a proven matter of fact now. And with that you can begin to assert that all length work is entirely viable. There's no proof like that for girth yet, but you do a few months of bathmate and squeezes and tell me what you find.

The guy who posted that did the infamous belligerent arrogant dismissal thing that's way too popular. It's not good for anyone to be that closed minded.

deadwood187 · Nov 23, 2015

kyomoto;675362 said:
So just because there is no scientific evidence you don't believe it?

It's sad people are so close minded with these things. How about this deadwood187. How about you test this. Test this whole PE process for 1 year.

It doesn't hurt to spend 30 minutes or 1 hour a day to test this. IF you're so critical about scientific evidence, test this yourself, record the data and see the results.

Make the conclusion yourself. You'll see whether it works or not. Go ahead. But wait...I'm pretty sure you don't want to test this in the first place because you don't believe it.

But why not? IT doesn't hurt to try now does it? There will always be an excuse for skeptics like this.

Notice my join date. I have tested it. I have tested about 20 devices diligently. Nothing works. It's all bullshit...but you already know that. The only thing that works in this "game" is Photoshop and pressing in a ruler so hard in the "after" pics it punctures your liver.

deadwood187 · Nov 23, 2015

Longth;675341 said:
There's an article in TIME magazine and Forbes confirming extenders work via a number of studies by the way. That's as much as they've been willing to study so far. There are no studies that say pe doesn't work. Just big mouths on egos that have limited knowledge and zero experience.

Link to those studies (you know performed by someone other than the people who sell the extenders). I'll wait.

deadwood187 · Nov 23, 2015

youknowme123321;675342 said:
Longth is correct. The studies on extenders can easily be found with a google search. Some are directly linked to PE companies but not all. So Deadwood that evidence that you say doesn't exist...does exist. It would be great if there were more studies available but I don't know if a legit manual PE or hanging PE study will ever be done. I doubt it though.

Not one done by reputable researchers. The onus on proof is on you. You just don't say "use google". You made a claim. Back it up.

acromegaly · Nov 23, 2015

deadwood187;675396 said:
Notice my join date. I have tested it. I have tested about 20 devices diligently. Nothing works. It's all bullshit...but you already know that. The only thing that works in this "game" is Photoshop and pressing in a ruler so hard in the "after" pics it punctures your liver.

laughing my ass off, this thread is so retarded

LONGERDICK7+ · Nov 23, 2015

Notice my join date. I have tested it. I have tested about 20 devices diligently. Nothing works. It's all bullshit...but you already know that. The only thing that works in this "game" is Photoshop and pressing in a ruler so hard in the "after" pics it punctures your liver.

20 devices wtf LM, BM, SG, PF, THE POWER ASSIST,those are the ones i know of,what are the other 15 left...

besides you are not forced to do things you dont believe in...

Longth · Nov 23, 2015

deadwood187;675399 said:
Not one done by reputable researchers. The onus on proof is on you. You just don't say "use google". You made a claim. Back it up.

It's in TIME magazine. Forbes magazine. I've linked to them in the past. Do a search. Ain't nobody got time for that attitude.

You didn't test anything. You didn't commit to anything. You failed to be consistent. Your mindset is a giveaway. You don't rigorously stick to something you're convinced is bull shit. You half assed it at best. And that's not going to change with the ridiculous negativity you're selling. I've seen gains and can confirm the existence of methods to enlarge a penis, and that's not even news. Shit is ancient, literally. You are wrong, and I have proof. So do plenty of others. You want to make excuses for your own failure? Fine. Give up and go away, it's too hard for you. Or ask for help.

You are throwing a tantrum and trolling a forum at this point. You know full well that your attitude can affect new members going through the initial doubts. None of us have stuck to this shit for years with no damn evidence personally. Get real. Act like other people are dumb because you can't figure out what you're doing wrong. And you're going to keep arguing with people that are going to have the same attitude back. Whatever you say, buddy. I wonder if that's maybe a sign that you might just not have a clue.

Hmm

deadwood187 · Nov 23, 2015

Longth;675414 said:
It's in TIME magazine. Forbes magazine. I've linked to them in the past. Do a search. Ain't nobody got time for that attitude.

You didn't test anything. You didn't commit to anything. You failed to be consistent. Your mindset is a giveaway. You don't rigorously stick to something you're convinced is bull shit. You half assed it at best. And that's not going to change with the ridiculous negativity you're selling. I've seen gains and can confirm the existence of methods to enlarge a penis, and that's not even news. Shit is ancient, literally. You are wrong, and I have proof. So do plenty of others. You want to make excuses for your own failure? Fine. Give up and go away, it's too hard for you. Or ask for help.

You are throwing a tantrum and trolling a forum at this point. You know full well that your attitude can affect new members going through the initial doubts. None of us have stuck to this shit for years with no damn evidence personally. Get real. Act like other people are dumb because you can't figure out what you're doing wrong. And you're going to keep arguing with people that are going to have the same attitude back. Whatever you say, buddy. I wonder if that's maybe a sign that you might just not have a clue.

Hmm

Yep...and yet with three major forums and 1,000,000's of post not one clear before and after that you can look at and say that it works without a doubt. Just shady claims followed by even more shady photos.But whatever.

acromegaly · Nov 23, 2015

deadwood187;675420 said:
Yep...and yet with three major forums and 1,000,000's of post not one clear before and after that you can look at and say that it works without a doubt. Just shady claims followed by even more shady photos.But whatever.

You realize there is a picture proof sub forum right?

deadwood187 · Nov 23, 2015

acromegaly;675421 said:
You realize there is a picture proof sub forum right?

I do. Can you point to the ones you think are legit (i.e. no Photoshop, no angles, no pressing in ruler more etc.)....don't bother...there are none. Funny no video either.... yeah yeah I know...privacy..no one has to prove anything etc etc yadda yadda yadda

Longth · Nov 23, 2015

deadwood187;675422 said:
I do. Can you point to the ones you think are legit (i.e. no Photoshop, no angles, no pressing in ruler more etc.)....don't bother...there are none. Funny no video either.... yeah yeah I know...privacy..no one has to prove anything etc etc yadda yadda yadda

You'd say that about any proof BTW. Any data or study or testimonials are fabricated in an elaborate scheme. I could have a before and after and I would have Photoshop accusations because that never happens. You are unmovable. You'd be the guy who gained a tenth inch, stopped for a month, and get surprised your body corrected the issue. Thus proving yourself right.

So yea, you're right in your world, because there's no way you have the patience for cementing gains and apparently lack enough understanding of how the process works to make anything happen to cement. Truly it all does make sense when you take the time to learn, and when you understand some of the practices are older than Egypt. But surely it's all those countless generations of men that had it wrong all along. We all just needed to hear it from you.

LONGERDICK7+ · Nov 23, 2015

PE is like the AIDS cure most people believes that there is no cure,therefore there is not such thing the cure is a lie..

PE is hard n getting bigger can be really complicated n confusing..because there are so many ways to measure the penis BPEL NBPEL SIDE MEASURING.

The SRT routine is time consuming the same thing happens whit the DLDs newbie routine..thats why most men quit.They get discouraged n end up quitting after a couple of months.

I had a 5.5incher n yeah i have to say it im 7.25 Measuring BPEL but i dont have to press damn hard against my pubic bone..

templnite · Nov 23, 2015

Its ok to shove the ruler in just make sure the edges are soft

. Some say to measure only mid-shaft girth, but what the hell measure the thickest part :cool:. Every gain counts even gaining insight regarding the various topics here

acromegaly · Nov 23, 2015

deadwood187;675422 said:
I do. Can you point to the ones you think are legit (i.e. no Photoshop, no angles, no pressing in ruler more etc.)....don't bother...there are none. Funny no video either.... yeah yeah I know...privacy..no one has to prove anything etc etc yadda yadda yadda

I posted a before and after picture in my thread of ONLY 1 YEAR of pe training, and the difference is insane. Another year later and I'm even thicker. Stop being lazy and just do the research. I would not be surprised if your attitude carries over into other aspects of your life.

acromegaly · Nov 23, 2015

Being lazy about researching is a bad choice. I had a mentor tell me before that you should study more than you practice. That was not about pe but it applies to any passion in your life

Longth · Nov 23, 2015

templnite;675430 said:
Its ok to shove the ruler in just make sure the edges are soft . Some say to measure only mid-shaft girth, but what the hell measure the thickest part :cool:

I say go for base mid and just under the glans. Good way to keep track of what your girth work is actually doing.

And it is called bone pressed length. You can't really dig into your bone. Push through the fat and get the ruler to the bone.

Is it weird my side bp is the same as my top bp or...?

kyomoto · Nov 23, 2015

deadwood187;675396 said:
Notice my join date. I have tested it. I have tested about 20 devices diligently. Nothing works. It's all bullshit...but you already know that. The only thing that works in this "game" is Photoshop and pressing in a ruler so hard in the "after" pics it punctures your liver.

Have you ever tried manual work?

Sometimes i don't believe

Active Member

1

0

1

0

0

0

0

Active Member

1

0

0

0

1

Active Member

0

0

0

1

0

Similar threads