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Super · Feb 22, 2012

9inchtail;473931 said:
I'm using the PMP extender. I bought the entire kit to be on the safe side. Im glad I did, because the tension screws comes out a full inch, whereas my SG only goes about an half inch and then it detaches.

On the PMP 900 (it's actually a little more than 900, maybe 920 or so) is the fourth line.

Could you take a picture? For me the fast size has 3 lines and the 4th I guess would be fully extended. I am at the top of the 3rd line, so for me that would be the 4th I guess. Right now I feel a deep lig stretch like I have not felt in a time. Like it is coming from within me deep inside past the base!! It does not hurt, but I can really feel it. Is that a good thing?
Also does this enlarge the head of the penis? When I took it off to go to the restroom the head seemed larger.

9inchtail · Feb 22, 2012

yeah your head will swell! Mines did and im sure others did too. The PMP extender has 5 traction lines: 200, 400, 600 900, 1100..Im a little off on the numbers but its in that area. I can take a pic but where do I post to here?

9inchtail · Feb 22, 2012

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if you have it all the way to the bottom it's over 1100 grams which they do not recommend unless you just aren't feeling the stretch otherwise.

9inchtail · Feb 22, 2012

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I wanted to show you the actual PMP extender fully extended. As you can see the adjustment rods come out a full inch. And you dont have to worry about over screwing because it stops on its own so the device wont fall apart. The other pictures are what happens with you over tighten the valve. I broke mines right off and had to order a whole new head chamber. DAMN

Dickleaker · Feb 22, 2012

@ 9inchtail
I pm'd you man.

@Squashbuddie
Ur welcome dude! Slight curve is sexy ,I wouldn't worry about that at all.
Thanks for the reprimand on my cleaniness

I will try washing the latex more often.

I watch �naked people movies� more than sometimes haha.I don't think there is a worry about the glans when getting erections because the latex diaphram covering ur glans will also expand as more blood enters.It was designed with that in mind.
You may have failed physics bro but you are getting great marks here at cock growing academy!!!!!! Pass that smoke pls.

@Supra
Welcome to PMP club bro.In the beginning I went on about this thing like a lunatic and I think alot of guys were rolling their eyes.Now that you see how great the PMP is you can lend your insight and reputation to the cock growing trials in this thread

Good luck with your peyronies and getting more cock gains and foreskin!!!

@Tparker84
Dude...hurry up and get yours!!Happy you are getting onboard with us.The more guys involved gives this device more respect for what it is and more creative input from various minds on getting all of us closer to our goals faster!!!

@Celttank
Here's a trick to get it off in a hurry...don't remember if I told you before or not:
put the pump ball back on ,turn it to the left position and then squeeze air slowly into the chamber and it will eject your glans.
You should get use to the pro and the pain will lessen the more you use it.

@ Everyone...
You do not want to extend at high tension.We all think that more is better.The more I read about the biological proceses involved and recently what Irspow has added to this topic and comparing Penis Enlargement to ear lobe stretching/neck stretching,lip extending,etc. any body modification that involves gradually increasing the size of that body part,

the risk at high tension is that you can create scar tissue and a densification of collagen and penis tissue which is what you don't want and will eventually slow ur gains to either a snail's pace or stop altogether.
Constant low tension for as much of the day as possible is better than high tension for a short period.It all comes back to the new cells being made.
Again please read Irspow's posts and DLD's SRT theory.Important stuff regarding gains.
The penimaster pro may be one of the first devices that allow us to extend for extremely long periods of time - I have clocked in the past 4 days at 16 hours per day!!!
It may be the equivalent of placing a wooden ring in your earlobe and then going up gradually to the a very slightly bigger one so that the stress to the body is small and the amount of scar tissue created is minor.

Good luck to all of us!!

9inchtail · Feb 22, 2012

Dickleaker, PM'd you back bro. Man the PMP is truly an awesome device. I was worried in the beginning with the slow shipping and all but the product itself is on point. Thanks for the ranting and raving man, between you and fonic I had no choice but to buy this. I havent seen gains yet, but my flaccid is off the chain (Chicago slang) and my head is on swoll (Also Chicago slang heh heh).

Been reading up on that forum post and so far a lot of what he is saying is backed up in a lot of ways. There is a code to crack and I think you guys will crack it; I'll be right here waiting to freeload on you guys' findings lol.

irspow · Feb 22, 2012

LOL...it is the constant triggering of "new" parent cells into mitosis at every moment that they become available...instead of an hour here...and an hour there...ten minutes here...:D A PMS...a constant flow of ever moving daughters growing into fathers who double into new daughers...a constant flow...a constant flow of neverending fathers thrown into mitosis...a flow...

Not a jab here, a stretch there, a pull there, a bulge there. Stop, start, stop, start, stop, start.

PMS is start start start start start start...an infinite amount of starts every second, every minute, every hour, every day.

It isn't a workout...it is a evolutionary transformation LOL LOL

The Lunatic

Super · Feb 22, 2012

Ok I logged a few hours today, my head got some minor blistering is that normal?
9...I hope I start getting the massive flaccid hang like you son, sounds fun.

9inchtail · Feb 23, 2012

irspow;473951 said:
LOL...it is the constant triggering of "new" parent cells into mitosis at every moment that they become available...instead of an hour here...and an hour there...ten minutes here...:D A PMS...a constant flow of ever moving daughters growing into fathers who double into new daughers...a constant flow...a constant flow of neverending fathers thrown into mitosis...a flow...

Not a jab here, a stretch there, a pull there, a bulge there. Stop, start, stop, start, stop, start.

PMS is start start start start start start...an infinite amount of starts every second, every minute, every hour, every day.

It isn't a workout...it is a evolutionary transformation LOL LOL

The Lunatic

Just wondering, for real life training, would the numbers of pull pull out numbering the stops be sufficient for rapid gains? Say keeping the penis expand for 12 or more hours and then resting?

9inchtail · Feb 23, 2012

Supra;473953 said:
Ok I logged a few hours today, my head got some minor blistering is that normal?
9...I hope I start getting the massive flaccid hang like you son, sounds fun.

Yeah, add long as they are very minor and go away within a few hours or less. My third week in, I don't get those anymore, but then again I'm using just enough traction to keep me extended to a certain point you're 3 hours at a time.

Super · Feb 23, 2012

You guys are not gonna believe this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im in the DP4000 right now and the head expansion I am getting is unreal and its because of the head expansion from the PMP, my head is 1/3 bigger under vacuum than normal!
One of my biggest flaws I always have had with my penis is smaller glands compared to the rest of me penis!! Maybe this will help!!
I love you all!! Thanks for letting me in to the cock growing club!!

irspow · Feb 23, 2012

9inchtail;473956 said:
Just wondering, for real life training, would the numbers of pull pull out numbering the stops be sufficient for rapid gains? Say keeping the penis expand for 12 or more hours and then resting?

We want to always at all times to be inducing any mature parents that exist into mitosis...anything else is wasted time. You must throw away the false "law of intensity" before you can ever approach any level of real efficiency of growth. Force in Penis Enlargement should START at a level that can be maintained at all times. More force than that is highly inefficient. Until we get rid of the inappropriate forms of "exercise" geared toward hypertrophy, all Penis Enlargement is doomed to be a very slow and inefficient system of "growth". The penis can only "grow" through mitosis, not hypertrophy. Intermittent high-intensity is meant to cause hypertrophy. We want to simply cause the greatest possible accumulation of cells possible over time. This is done by a constant force.

If you have to stop, rest, or "heal", you have failed to maximize efficiency in creating the greatest number of cells.

P.S. Yes, 12 on 12 off is far better than almost everything going on in the Penis Enlargement world though, sadly. But you will still be wasting at least half of your time when you could have been growing.

As a numerical example of how the geometric progression works over that time period though...2^12=4,096 but 2^24=16,777,216 :D If you would like to throw away about 4100% of your potential growth over a day...12 hours is good LOL

karmi · Feb 23, 2012

hey irspow, your theory is amzing me right now, ive been using the pm for 18 days and its unbelievable but its a lil hard to maintain a high stretch for real long hours alyjough i can do a few at a time.

just a quick thing, im 6.9 inches erect, do i stretch more than that or do i stretch at a lower tension, say above flaccid for real long hours?

because im thinking of wearing the device when i sleep at low tension above flaccid stretch.

is this following your theory?

irspow · Feb 23, 2012

To be honest man...the guy who is having the best progress implementing a PMS (Perpetual Mitosis System) so far is DickLeaker. He is reporting 16 straight hour shots right now. He will be LEGEND. I would follow him if I were you if you are looking to try to seriously implement this thing. He has essentially already found his "equilibrium force" (explained somewhere the "rest" thread) LOL, and that is probably going to be the biggest hurdle for most people. Because they are too obsessed with how much intensity they are using instead of being obsessed with how much time they are under continuous force for. It is a hard, mental block to break, for many people. But eventually they will realize that force is essentially irrelevant in comparison to time.

Yeah, get with DickLeaker. He is gonna' bust this thing out onto the world. He's smart, and he has a good amount of Penis Enlargement experience. He might wind up with the most prodigious gains seen at the rate he is solving the practical side of this theory. I am just explaining how it works, he is finding a way to implement it for himself.

I will have to buy his book. :D (Maybe he will give me an honorable mention LOL)

Oh, don't worry how "far" you stretch man. I could say that your flaccid stretch should be considerably longer than your erection length, but that is not always the case. There are other variables involved, so there is not standard. Go more by how it "feels", if you feel the stretch, you are stretching. :D Don't fall into the trap of how far, because that leads to the same foolishness as how hard, leading to the inefficient obsession with intensity. Just stretch enough that you CAN maintain that stretch for as long as possible. Eventually, like what Leaker is doing, you will find out what level of force can be withstood indefinitely. That is the Holy Grail, of maximizing efficiency and "growth" for your penis.

Intensity means absolutely nothing if it is not maintained over time.

Tom

Squashbuddie · Feb 23, 2012

Hey guys.

As I wrote a couple of days ago a actually gained 0.5 cm from using only the Penimaster Pro, I am now more motivated than ever.
When I used the VLC I tried doing the bridge stretches that J1L invented (See link below). Those stretches made it possible for me to an one big bar in a short amount of time. I completely forgot about those stretches after I bought the PM pro, so today I kind of experimented with the again. I have an idea that some of my gain is from straightening the slight curve that I have, some like their curve, but I personally want my wood to be as straight as possible.
Incorporating the idea behind the bridge-stretches and my wish to have a penis straight like a pole I sort of took the bridge-stretches to a new level. See

My curve is to the left, and with these stretches I feel the left side burning like crazy. I am very positive that these stretches will speed up the process.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?62610-New-Size-Genetics-Stretches-Bridge-Stretch-and-Twist-Stretch-with-pic

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Super · Feb 23, 2012

Squashbuddie;474017 said:
Hey guys.

As I wrote a couple of days ago a actually gained 0.5 cm from using only the Penimaster Pro, I am now more motivated than ever.
When I used the VLC I tried doing the bridge stretches that J1L invented (See link below). Those stretches made it possible for me to an one big bar in a short amount of time. I completely forgot about those stretches after I bought the PM pro, so today I kind of experimented with the again. I have an idea that some of my gain is from straightening the slight curve that I have, some like their curve, but I personally want my wood to be as straight as possible.
Incorporating the idea behind the bridge-stretches and my wish to have a penis straight like a pole I sort of took the bridge-stretches to a new level. See

My curve is to the left, and with these stretches I feel the left side burning like crazy. I am very positive that these stretches will speed up the process.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?62610-New-Size-Genetics-Stretches-Bridge-Stretch-and-Twist-Stretch-with-pic

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Dude, thank you so much I also have a curve to the left in that same spot!!! Will start doing this today

Super · Feb 23, 2012

Dickleaker;473946 said:
@ 9inchtail
I pm'd you man.

@Squashbuddie
Ur welcome dude! Slight curve is sexy ,I wouldn't worry about that at all.
Thanks for the reprimand on my cleaniness I will try washing the latex more often.

I watch �naked people movies� more than sometimes haha.I don't think there is a worry about the glans when getting erections because the latex diaphram covering ur glans will also expand as more blood enters.It was designed with that in mind.
You may have failed physics bro but you are getting great marks here at cock growing academy!!!!!! Pass that smoke pls.

@Supra
Welcome to PMP club bro.In the beginning I went on about this thing like a lunatic and I think alot of guys were rolling their eyes.Now that you see how great the PMP is you can lend your insight and reputation to the cock growing trials in this thread
Good luck with your peyronies and getting more cock gains and foreskin!!!

@Tparker84
Dude...hurry up and get yours!!Happy you are getting onboard with us.The more guys involved gives this device more respect for what it is and more creative input from various minds on getting all of us closer to our goals faster!!!

@Celttank
Here's a trick to get it off in a hurry...don't remember if I told you before or not:
put the pump ball back on ,turn it to the left position and then squeeze air slowly into the chamber and it will eject your glans.
You should get use to the pro and the pain will lessen the more you use it.

@ Everyone...
You do not want to extend at high tension.We all think that more is better.The more I read about the biological proceses involved and recently what Irspow has added to this topic and comparing Penis Enlargement to ear lobe stretching/neck stretching,lip extending,etc. any body modification that involves gradually increasing the size of that body part,

the risk at high tension is that you can create scar tissue and a densification of collagen and penis tissue which is what you don't want and will eventually slow ur gains to either a snail's pace or stop altogether.
Constant low tension for as much of the day as possible is better than high tension for a short period.It all comes back to the new cells being made.
Again please read Irspow's posts and DLD's SRT theory.Important stuff regarding gains.
The penimaster pro may be one of the first devices that allow us to extend for extremely long periods of time - I have clocked in the past 4 days at 16 hours per day!!!
It may be the equivalent of placing a wooden ring in your earlobe and then going up gradually to the a very slightly bigger one so that the stress to the body is small and the amount of scar tissue created is minor.

Good luck to all of us!!

Dick what is your FSL in the extender? And what extender are you using?

Squashbuddie · Feb 23, 2012

Supra;474018 said:
Dude, thank you so much I also have a curve to the left in that same spot!!! Will start doing this today

No problem man!

All credit goes to J1L.

celttank · Feb 23, 2012

Yeah dickleaker you told me about that before but it doesn't really help. I think my glans are just too big to take it off without pain. That hole is so fucking small i don't see why they don't make different size latex parts.
Did u get your springs yet?

acolon85 · Feb 23, 2012

I'm I the only one he is slightly disappointed that DLD hasn't came through with the discount for the pmp that he was talking about? What's up with that? Anyone know?

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