Guys while I respect your beliefs I still don't think you can show me in the Bible where it says that pre marital sex is wrong. I have looked and just as you know it's not there. It deals with sexual immorality and impurity but don't you think that God or Jesus would have been a little more specific on this if it were that wrong. Let me explain my thoughts, Some things in the Bible are in black and white. These things are pretty much cut and dried. In other things there is a sorta gray area. I really think a persons beliefs defines what is right and wrong in these areas. In other words I think that if you think these things are wrong for you to do then they probably are. While I am not saying that it is ok for a person to go out and bang everything in sight (I think this is where the immoral and impure comes from) I also don't think that two people who really love each other and are devoted to each other are doing anything wrong. If you spent the rest of your life with one woman and was truely devoted and faithful to her would it be wrong to have sex with her just because you were not married. If your answer is yes then I hope we can agree to disagree. I think that in this circumstance that in the eyes of God you are already married. I believe that marriage is a bond that brings two people together as one. I also believe you can have this without a cerimony.I don't think that there is anything immoral or impure about true love. Again I think the problem comes back to the application. There is a big difference between love and lust. The Bible tells us about love in the new testament. It is some of my favorite things to read in the Bible.