if anyone has a lot of patience here is a forum which may or may not shed some light on it...

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=57867&page=13

of interest so far:

* theory of scarce resources (rather than heat) may explain any geographical differences in penis size. the theory is that a large penis requires a larger amount of resources (energy i guess) and that in regions where resources are scarce, smaller penises will be favoured as part of evolution. (some controversial discussion regarding difficulty of terrain/scarcity of resources leading to larger brain size (to deal with difficult terrain) leading to smaller penis size (as larger brain takes resources).


* theory of penis as a 'heat exchanger' generally found not credible. would explain why indians in a hot climate allegedly small penises.


* theory of penis shape designed to shovel out other mens sperm (explains the thrusting before ejaculation apparently). the more unfaithful the women are, the larger the penis tends to be apparently.

all food for thought...
 
The volume of the brains of blacks average at 1,267cc's with IQs at 85.
The volume of the brains of whites average at 1,347cc's with IQs at 100.
The volume of the brains of Orientals average at 1,364cc's with IQs at 106.


leaving aside the tortorous issue of how to measure iq, how much of the difference is environmental etc...

its interesting to note there are MAY be physical differences in race (i have not seen any proper verification this was from a forum).

one theory is that africans did not leave africa, they stayed where they were. europeans and asians left africa and for whatever reason had a tougher environment to deal with and tougher evolution meant they evolved slightly larger brain masses to deal with this. as a result they had less resources to devote to penis size. jewish people for example have had the hardest time through history and some studies of IQ, they score the highest (though this could easily be the result of cultural importance of education in their society). if there is a payoff between resources, this would imply jews had smaller penises.

i have no idea if the above statements are correct or not. indeed they are controversial in the extreme and i would caution against believing unless there is much more evidence. i post them in the spirit of continuing the discussion.
 
Maybe I watch to many things relating to sex but i realize that guys from brazil and are latin and all places like all have monster girth so maybe one of these races might be the biggest.
 
I to have notice that in most brazilian �naked people movies� most of the guys have some impressive girth.
 
Many of them are also mixed blood, which takes us to ''Hybrid-Vigor'' or Heterosis perhaps playing a role.
 
REDZULU2003;344352 said:
Thanks but I think I didnt word the Latvian part rightly.

What I meant was if this whole black big dick size talk wasnt about as much and it was LATVIANS who were suddenly talked about in the media for haveing whopper freakish cocks than do you think that Latvians or eastern europeans would start to appear in �naked people movies� everywhere with big dicks? Like with the blacks at the moment, they arent anybigger on average imo in erect size than whites but flaccid yes, so if the Latvian scenario started would you reckon the �naked people movies� industry have them setup like they do with blacks, the most well hung ones, on viagra, pumping etc and than a NEW MYTH starts all across the web and whore girls dont want black chocolate dick but strong eastern european Latvian cock and its the Latvian men that are known for being well hung, thanks to a few huge freaks that set the base for the new model.

Do you get what I'm sayin? it wouldnt matter if they were GREEN skinned orcs, if someone had a large cock than the �naked people movies� world would sniff it and use it, grabbing guys from the area and blowing them up to that ideal huge size. The rest of us watching �naked people movies� would have our minds warped and bent again alongwith the various other forms of life that attend the media such as size quenns and whatever else.

That's a good question. I think a lot of the appeal for "Big Black" �naked people movies� is tied to some residual taboos, cuckolding and humiliation fetishes, and the appeal of the myth. I don't think "Big Latvian" �naked people movies� would be nearly as successful, but I could be wrong :)
 
c'mon this thread is old news now. Why this shit poppin up all the time?
 
To the other black dudes constantly postin on this thread, brainstorming, analyzing, stop bitching and start Penis Enlargementing. Harsh advice, but just get of your ass and DO IT!!
 
Big Al;344410 said:
That's a good question. I think a lot of the appeal for "Big Black" �naked people movies� is tied to some residual taboos, cuckolding and humiliation fetishes, and the appeal of the myth. I don't think "Big Latvian" �naked people movies� would be nearly as successful, but I could be wrong :)

I would have to agree with you on that :)
 
I like my dick in STEREO :)
 
Ok I will get this thread back onto the rails [Any black guys who hate the big dick Stereotype] with a link to a gay black �naked people movies�site. Now please be MATURE now and do not post anti-gay messages or you'll get warned for it, no need. You do not have to look at this next link and I found it by accident on the web looking at some __________ because in the gallery it had two black guys at it, so I clicked because they were average size and I thought it would make a good place to post it here.

Click it and see yourself that most Black men are AVERAGE IN Penis EnlargementNIS SIZE ... this link proves it. No monsters, No shanes, No mandingos, No Ramones, No shorty Mac JUST plain zane average cocks, like the others and that should make the black men on the forums pleased ... the whole point of the thread right? kick this stereotype right up the ass into orbit.

Heres is the link ... gay �naked people movies� so you click it at your own risk
 
REDZULU2003;344472 said:
Ok I will get this thread back onto the rails [Any black guys who hate the big dick Stereotype] with a link to a gay black �naked people movies�site. Now please be MATURE now and do not post anti-gay messages or you'll get warned for it, no need. You do not have to look at this next link and I found it by accident on the web looking at some __________ because in the gallery it had two black guys at it, so I clicked because they were average size and I thought it would make a good place to post it here.

Click it and see yourself that most Black men are AVERAGE IN Penis EnlargementNIS SIZE ... this link proves it. No monsters, No shanes, No mandingos, No Ramones, No shorty Mac JUST plain zane average cocks, like the others and that should make the black men on the forums pleased ... the whole point of the thread right? kick this stereotype right up the ass into orbit.

Heres is the link ... gay �naked people movies� so you click it at your own risk

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this link has some studies showing differences between race, no idea how accurate these studies are.

http://www.neoteny.org/neoteny/a/testiclesize.html

excerpt : "The ethnographic record {e.g., A French Army Surgeon (1898/1972), a 30-year specialist in genitourinary diseases} makes reference to numerous anatomical distinctions which show a similar pattern of whites being between blacks and Orientals. These include the placement of female genitals (Orientals front and high; blacks back and low); angle and texture of erection (Orientals parallel to body and stiff, blacks at right angles to body and flexible); salient buttocks, breasts, and muscularity (Orientals least, blacks most); and size of genitalia (Orientals smallest, blacks largest). We averaged the ethnographic data on erect penis and found the means to approximate: Orientals, 4 to 5.5 in. in length and 1.25 in. in diameter; Caucasions, 5.5 to 6 in. in length and 1.5 in. in diameter; blacks, 6.25 to 8 in. in length and 2 in. in diameter. Women were proportionate to men, with Orientals having smaller vaginas and blacks larger ones, relative to Caucasians. Clitoral size differed in length: in European women, 1.2 in.; in African women, 2 in. variations were noted; in French West Indies, the size of the penis and vagina covaried with amount of black admixture; Arab men, who were often mixed with black, had larger penises than Europeans. Recent data show similar patterns. Measurements taken from living subjects as well as those at autopsy, show the size of testes is twofold lower in Asian men than Europeans (9 g vs 21 g), a difference too large to be accounted for entirely in terms of body size (Diamond, 1986; Short, 1984). Concomitantly, as mentioned, Asian women have lower ovulation rates than Caucasian women, as indexed by dizotic twin frequency, with the frequency per 1000 across several Asian populations being < 4, while for Caucasians it is 8, and for blacks 16 per 1000 (Bulmer, 1970; Diamond, 1986). Contrary to the general trend, Freeman (1934) observed that, at autopsy, American blacks had less heavy testes than American whites (13g vs 15g). Freeman (1934), however, did find that black women had heavier ovaries than white women. Subsequently Daniel, Fienstein, Howard-Peebles, and Baxley (1982) found no black-white difference in testicular volume among American adolescents, while Ajmani, Jain, and Saxena (1985) found larger scrotal circumference in Nigerians than Europeans (212.6 mm vs 195.1 mm or 8.37 in. vs 7.68 in.).
 
Nice links Reborn, thanks mate. The part on Vaginal size is handy for another thread we have in the sexuality section, a poll on vaginal tightness with race, age and build as factors.
 
Reborn;344521 said:
this link has some studies showing differences between race, no idea how accurate these studies are.

http://www.neoteny.org/neoteny/a/testiclesize.html

excerpt : "The ethnographic record {e.g., A French Army Surgeon (1898/1972), a 30-year specialist in genitourinary diseases} makes reference to numerous anatomical distinctions which show a similar pattern of whites being between blacks and Orientals. These include the placement of female genitals (Orientals front and high; blacks back and low); angle and texture of erection (Orientals parallel to body and stiff, blacks at right angles to body and flexible); salient buttocks, breasts, and muscularity (Orientals least, blacks most); and size of genitalia (Orientals smallest, blacks largest). We averaged the ethnographic data on erect penis and found the means to approximate: Orientals, 4 to 5.5 in. in length and 1.25 in. in diameter; Caucasions, 5.5 to 6 in. in length and 1.5 in. in diameter; blacks, 6.25 to 8 in. in length and 2 in. in diameter. Women were proportionate to men, with Orientals having smaller vaginas and blacks larger ones, relative to Caucasians. Clitoral size differed in length: in European women, 1.2 in.; in African women, 2 in. variations were noted; in French West Indies, the size of the penis and vagina covaried with amount of black admixture; Arab men, who were often mixed with black, had larger penises than Europeans. Recent data show similar patterns. Measurements taken from living subjects as well as those at autopsy, show the size of testes is twofold lower in Asian men than Europeans (9 g vs 21 g), a difference too large to be accounted for entirely in terms of body size (Diamond, 1986; Short, 1984). Concomitantly, as mentioned, Asian women have lower ovulation rates than Caucasian women, as indexed by dizotic twin frequency, with the frequency per 1000 across several Asian populations being < 4, while for Caucasians it is 8, and for blacks 16 per 1000 (Bulmer, 1970; Diamond, 1986). Contrary to the general trend, Freeman (1934) observed that, at autopsy, American blacks had less heavy testes than American whites (13g vs 15g). Freeman (1934), however, did find that black women had heavier ovaries than white women. Subsequently Daniel, Fienstein, Howard-Peebles, and Baxley (1982) found no black-white difference in testicular volume among American adolescents, while Ajmani, Jain, and Saxena (1985) found larger scrotal circumference in Nigerians than Europeans (212.6 mm vs 195.1 mm or 8.37 in. vs 7.68 in.).

Now THIS is some interesting data! I'd be interested to know if they did a more detailed breakdown, as "Caucasian", "Black" and "Asian" is pretty generalized. Also, how did he obtain those erect measurements?
 
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I want someone to have the balls to comment on that gay black site, mature comments on what they think about the cocks on show? look around average to me, like anyone else. Black guys here shiuld be pleased but all I got from Ithiel was a ....... < WTF Chico
 
i took one look and hit the back button!

my wife is black which might help explain the interest in the topic but i am not this interested! :)
 
Big Al;344566 said:
Now THIS is some interesting data! I'd be interested to know if they did a more detailed breakdown, as "Caucasian", "Black" and "Asian" is pretty generalized.

there is little or no detail on any of this studies as far as i can see as to the methodology. one has to bear in mind some of these studies were written by people with definite biases in mind which they wanted 'evidence' to confirm this...(ie a possible bias would be ,in their heads, they wanted to proved blacks have lower iqs, larger dicks)

kinsey study is flawed/useless as far i can work out due to self reporting and the tiny sample of blacks used; so the 6.3 vs. 6.2 doesn't mean anything.

some of the other studies seem to indicate whites may have bigger dicks on average.

the smallness of asians seems slightly more consistent but again hardly you something you'd hang your hat on.

i'm beginning to think it may only be a myth after all :):):) but lets at least try to find more evidence either way.
 
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