Iceman338;727400 said:
Do you have any pics of your progress?

I have huge girth. I am only working on length.

Thank you.

I wouldnt really call mine a "progress" lol because ive been stuck in the same measurements for a few years. I had some pics up at �other PE site� shithole and at pussygym too I think but that was many years ago. Ill take new ones before I start my new routine.
 
seven_wants_ten;727396 said:
This thread isn't really the place for this but...God damn dude. You have to get past the anger phase at some point and realize that yes, you are the problem.

It's not society.
It's not women.
It's not me.
It's fucking YOU!

Women have been getting tingles in their vaginas for the same reasons for the past 100,000 years. It's not different than it ever has been.

Women are turned on by masculinity, dominance, leadership, confidence, presence, and other alpha male characteristics. This is not caused by society, it is caused by biology.

How many of these traits could be used to describe you? You want a fucking woman to make the first move because you're too afraid! You are literally the opposite of what women are attracted to.

But rather than improve yourself, and learn how to become the kind of guy who is attractive to women, you would rather blame everyone else and try to move the goalposts so that YOU are the new standard. You're no different than a 350lb. hambeast blaming society for not thinking she's beautiful. It's a lot easier to blame someone else than it is to change yourself, isn't it?

Im sure this post will offend you, but God damn you fucking need it. Someone needs to slap your bitch ass and wake you up from your little fantasy land where you seem to think slutty women are supposed to be hunting you down and competing against each other for the illustrious opportunity to suck your cock.

Get the fuck over yourself and change something about yourself if you want different results.

Lift weights, learn social skills, understand how women actually work.

Or you can get mad at me for saying all this and keep saving your money for that sex doll. Your choice.

I have to say, I agree. It's like penis enlargement.....you want more, you put in the work, and get the results.......you take that shit! It would be nice, but, no matter what we do, we're not going to just wake up with a huge cock, because we joined MoS! I mean, there are many different types out there, and not everybody is compatible........but, I promise, no matter what your type, what you look like, and so on, there's somebody out there that will fuck you!!!! You just gotta crawl out, and go get that shit! Most women want to be pursued......wanted.......worked for.......... There are a few exceptions, that will knock on your door, to take what they want, but that's very rare, and believe it or not.....not really something that turns me on! Don't get me wrong though....I'm married, and love it, when she decides she's got to have some, and proceeds to take it.......but that's a little different. Anyway.......there isn't one single problem, in 99% of people's lives, that can be totally blamed on anybody else, and can not be addressed, and resolved, if the person will just hold their head up, and change things!!!!! Anyway....not trying to offend, but rather motivate! Trust me, I'm my own example......I'm not a gorgeous mother fucker......but I do have a smoking wife, that loves me more than know how to even tell! You know what......if I hadn't decided, that I had to have her, no matter what, and went out there and got it done.......my life would probably be a lot different right now! I hear it all the time......."Damn, how the hell did you pull that off".......lol!!!! I worked for it, and made it happen, just like this big ole dick I'm growing!!!!! Lol.
 
Jackxxx;727405 said:
I wouldnt really call mine a "progress" lol because ive been stuck in the same measurements for a few years. I had some pics up at �other PE site� shithole and at pussygym too I think but that was many years ago. Ill take new ones before I start my new routine.

Did you stop training for that time period?
 
IAmSpartacus71;726997 said:
Well, actually I would definitely choose (if I could) being gay! Sex life is wayyyy better if you are gay, instead of being virgin until I was 25, and then have sex once in a life time and hate myself and the entire world because of it, I could have sex right when I'm ready to and have it available whenever I just want. That's fucking awesome, no mess with women's stupid mind. And I don't care about the ridicule and all that stuff, I get this anyway every time I open my mouth so I'm used to it.

As I see it you have a few choices....

- arrange an encounter with a gay man who is patient and understanding and see if maybe you are gay. It'll clear up any doubts.

- become asexual/buy a sex doll and other toys. Apparently this is an approved and accepted sexual orientation.

- only ever have sex with prostitutes (I have a friend who thinks he should always have sex with 9s and 10s yet he's a 2 so in 20 years of sexual activity he's only ever had sex with prostitutes)

- work on yourself, skills with others, and live a normal life having relationships. Yes some women play stupid games and they can be blown off in favor of someone who isn't going to. Maybe you need to see someone professionally to work on yourself and learn how to have effective and meaningful relationships with others. Some people have things in their past or childhood that inhibits them from having normal social relationships. If that's the case and you can identify it, fix it, and move on you'll be happier overall.

That's all the advice I can really give. All of it is up to you. No one can force you into any of them or tell you which is going to provide you with happiness. No matter what you choose do it to make yourself happy.
 
seven_wants_ten;727396 said:
This thread isn't really the place for this but...God damn dude. You have to get past the anger phase at some point and realize that yes, you are the problem.

It's not society.
It's not women.
It's not me.
It's fucking YOU!

Women have been getting tingles in their vaginas for the same reasons for the past 100,000 years. It's not different than it ever has been.

Women are turned on by masculinity, dominance, leadership, confidence, presence, and other alpha male characteristics. This is not caused by society, it is caused by biology.

How many of these traits could be used to describe you? You want a fucking woman to make the first move because you're too afraid! You are literally the opposite of what women are attracted to.

But rather than improve yourself, and learn how to become the kind of guy who is attractive to women, you would rather blame everyone else and try to move the goalposts so that YOU are the new standard. You're no different than a 350lb. hambeast blaming society for not thinking she's beautiful. It's a lot easier to blame someone else than it is to change yourself, isn't it?

Im sure this post will offend you, but God damn you fucking need it. Someone needs to slap your bitch ass and wake you up from your little fantasy land where you seem to think slutty women are supposed to be hunting you down and competing against each other for the illustrious opportunity to suck your cock.

Get the fuck over yourself and change something about yourself if you want different results.

Lift weights, learn social skills, understand how women actually work.

Or you can get mad at me for saying all this and keep saving your money for that sex doll. Your choice.

No disrespect, but your reply is an insult to my intelligence. There is nothing new at what you said, I've heard that like a million times. I'll try to explain it to you again, and maybe you will understand. But I'm warning you: It may change and ruin the way you see the world so if you don't want that don't read further.

All the things you described caused by society, not biology. I know this fact is hard to accept, but it's true. All the alpha male characteristics you described created by society, do you know why? Because in human populations that are far away from western influence there's no such a thing! They had no social status and they didn't use money, they was VERY different from us. Like the Polynesians not long ago, they didn't wear cloths so kids grew up naked and developed a very healthy sexuality. They reached the age of 14 years old and had sex and didn't make a big deal out of it. There was no rape, no prostitutes and you could not sell playboy to nobody because they had nothing to do with it. They also had no fetishes and when a man was talking to a woman he looked straight in her eyes, not in the boobs. They were sane, we are not sane because we have all those sick phenomena.

You know what else I didn't like about your reply? That you assumed you know who I am just by using your dichotomous thinking. Actually you have NO idea who I am and what I've been through. I dated plenty if women and all those dates was my initiative, so I'm not afraid of anything. It has nothing to do with fear, I just got sick of that stupid ass society. And yes I tried for fucking YEARS to improve myself and lift weights and all this and it didn't brought me anything but a heartache and the feeling that I don't worth anything because I'm a man.

And yes, this 350lb woman has every right to blame society because she IS beautiful. But we have grown in society that gave us a fault set of values, they made us to believe what is beautiful and what is not and also what is important for us (Appearance) and what is not important for us (knowledge, intelligence etc). Only sick people can be so superficial and care about boobs and ass and all that shit and ignore the important stuff.

When you say "It's a lot easier to blame someone else than it is to change yourself, isn't it?", what it basically means to me is: You have to be like everybody else, all men fight each other to get some so you need to fight too and I don't care how stupid it is and how you hate it, just fight and throw away your individuality and preferences because everybody should be the same. God I hate people!

Sex is essential for a good, healthy life, just like food, water, roof over your head etc. It should be in abundance, I'm not going to fight for such a basic thing that everybody should have! I really prefer to have a sex doll so I would be able to have sex whenever I want without bagging for a brainwashed woman like a fucking loser.

I know this topic has nothing to do with the original Thread, but it's way more important and interesting. I'm mean, come on guys, who really cares about what women want? We do PE for ourselves. If a guy wants 9 inches it doesn't matters if everybody says 8 is enough, he will work to get 9.
 
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cladre60;727464 said:
- become asexual/buy a sex doll and other toys. Apparently this is an approved and accepted sexual orientation.

I do think the options you proposed are very plausible.

About sexuality tho, human sexuality is such a gray and complicated area lol. It's not something that's discussed alot or understood at all, look at society in general. Not saying it's meant to change ones view on sexuality and such.

I will say that asexuality is more about sexual attraction and desire as opposed to where to get the sex from. For instance, if you are male and want sex with a female "doll" (or settling for sex with one) you are still heterosexual in the simplest of terms due to your attraction, there is a specific subtype after this but essentially that's what it means.
To put it in a little more perspective, if you are male and only want to have sex with a male "doll" that would be homosexual. Hope that makes sense to somebody lol.

Sorry to detract from the main theme of the thread, I just find human sexuality very interesting.
 
chargains;727474 said:
I do think the options you proposed are very plausible.

About sexuality tho, human sexuality is such a gray and complicated area lol. It's not something that's discussed alot or understood at all, look at society in general. Not saying it's meant to change ones view on sexuality and such.

I will say that asexuality is more about sexual attraction and desire as opposed to where to get the sex from. For instance, if you are male and want sex with a female "doll" (or settling for sex with one) you are still heterosexual in the simplest of terms due to your attraction, there is a specific subtype after this but essentially that's what it means.
To put it in a little more perspective, if you are male and only want to have sex with a male "doll" that would be homosexual. Hope that makes sense to somebody lol.

Sorry to detract from the main theme of the thread, I just find human sexuality very interesting.

I should have separated asexual and sex dolls/toys because they are 2 completely different things. The only thing they have in common is that you're not having sex with another person.

Side note - years ago a girl bought me a cyberskin "pussy" as a thank you for her vibrator. Sure, it felt good, yes I enjoyed it quite often, but cleaning them sucks. After you cum you don't feel like cleaning it so you put it away. The next day when you go to use it you gotta clean it first.....

the hand can be easier.
 
IAmSpartacus71;727473 said:
No disrespect, but your reply is an insult to my intelligence. There is nothing new at what you said, I've heard that like a million times. I'll try to explain it to you again, and maybe you will understand. But I'm warning you: It may change and ruin the way you see the world so if you don't want that don't read further.

All the things you described caused by society, not biology. I know this fact is hard to accept, but it's true. All the alpha male characteristics you described created by society, do you know why? Because in human populations that are far away from western influence there's no such a thing! They had no social status and they didn't use money, they was VERY different from us. Like the Polynesians not long ago, they didn't wear cloths so kids grew up naked and developed a very healthy sexuality. They reached the age of 14 years old and had sex and didn't make a big deal out of it. There was no rape, no prostitutes and you could not sell playboy to nobody because they had nothing to do with it. They also had no fetishes and when a man was talking to a woman he looked straight in her eyes, not in the boobs. They were sane, we are not sane because we have all those sick phenomena.

You know what else I didn't like about your reply? That you assumed you know who I am just by using your dichotomous thinking. Actually you have NO idea who I am and what I've been through. I dated plenty if women and all those dates was my initiative, so I'm not afraid of anything. It has nothing to do with fear, I just got sick of that stupid ass society. And yes I tried for fucking YEARS to improve myself and lift weights and all this and it didn't brought me anything but a heartache and the feeling that I don't worth anything because I'm a man.

And yes, this 350lb woman has every right to blame society because she IS beautiful. But we have grown in society that gave us a fault set of values, they made us to believe what is beautiful and what is not and also what is important for us (Appearance) and what is not important for us (knowledge, intelligence etc). Only sick people can be so superficial and care about boobs and ass and all that shit and ignore the important stuff.

When you say "It's a lot easier to blame someone else than it is to change yourself, isn't it?", what it basically means to me is: You have to be like everybody else, all men fight each other to get some so you need to fight too and I don't care how stupid it is and how you hate it, just fight and throw away your individuality and preferences because everybody should be the same. God I hate people!

Sex is essential for a good, healthy life, just like food, water, roof over your head etc. It should be in abundance, I'm not going to fight for such a basic thing that everybody should have! I really prefer to have a sex doll so I would be able to have sex whenever I want without bagging for a brainwashed woman like a fucking loser.

I know this topic has nothing to do with the original Thread, but it's way more important and interesting. I'm mean, come on guys, who really cares about what women want? We do PE for ourselves. If a guy wants 9 inches it doesn't matters if everybody says 8 is enough, he will work to get 9.

Have fun with your rubber vagina. Here's a tip: If you think about how smart you are while you're fucking it, you'll cum quicker.
 
cladre60;727476 said:
I should have separated asexual and sex dolls/toys because they are 2 completely different things. The only thing they have in common is that you're not having sex with another person.

Side note - years ago a girl bought me a cyberskin "pussy" as a thank you for her vibrator. Sure, it felt good, yes I enjoyed it quite often, but cleaning them sucks. After you cum you don't feel like cleaning it so you put it away. The next day when you go to use it you gotta clean it first.....

the hand can be easier.

No biggie lol just pointing out the distinction.

I can imagine the toy being more cumbersome than using your hands. Like it will be fun while using it but they usually have their own maintenance procedures lol. Hands are low maintenance in comparison.
 
doublelongdaddy;727435 said:
Did you stop training for that time period?

Yeah I stopped almost 100%. My gains stopped around 2010. Kept training dedicated through 2011 and 2012. Since then it has been trying new routines but just long enough to asses results. Then last year I bought the LengthMaster but didn't use it consistently because I wanted to use it as part of a complete routine. Now Im putting the last details together to start that experiment. Meanwhile a month ago I started wearing my stretcher and pumping short sets to condition the tissues.
 
chargains;727484 said:
No biggie lol just pointing out the distinction.

I can imagine the toy being more cumbersome than using your hands. Like it will be fun while using it but they usually have their own maintenance procedures lol. Hands are low maintenance in comparison.

Depends on the toy. The first one I had was made for stroking with. If you wanted to it could be placed between 2 pillows or whatever and actually fucked. It was sealed at the end which at first you would think to cut it to allow easy wash out. It would get some suction going though if you used it just right and cutting the end open would've ruined it.

That one got found during a full room inspection in the barracks. Our one MSgt, who stole everyone's �naked people movies� and told �naked people movies� scenes like they were his own personal encounters, saw the box. Immediately his eyes were drawn to it. He opened the box, sees this plastic vagina looking at him, and burst out "WTF IS THIS?!" When I told him and said I used it often he dropped the box and ran to wash his hands while cursing and screaming. He proclaimed I was a "sick fuck" while everyone else was laughing at him.

Later that day he pulled me to the side and asked where I got it, then told me he never asked lol. No privacy in the barracks. At all.


The second was the Chasey Lain cyberskin ass and pussy. It was almost as wide as a woman's hips and was meant to be laid on top of and go to town. That was even more of a pain in the ass to clean because the 2 holes were connected to a 3rd hole and lube and cum would be everywhere. The bottom was thin and I eventually tore it. For feeling like the real thing though cyberskin is damn close. I don't think you could get any closer than that.
 
seven_wants_ten;727478 said:
Have fun with your rubber vagina. Here's a tip: If you think about how smart you are while you're fucking it, you'll cum quicker.
That's very annoying how everybody thinks that smart people see themselves superiors or something... Like there is an hierarchy or a competition. Actually I would love to be dumb! I think dumb people have wayyyy better lives, because when you are smart you see the world the way it is: a shitty world. Every bad thing, every horror is bother you and you can't ignore it. However, when you dumb you don't see those bad things, even if they occur right in front of you, you just live your life and don't worry about anything.
cladre60;727498 said:
Depends on the toy. The first one I had was made for stroking with. If you wanted to it could be placed between 2 pillows or whatever and actually fucked. It was sealed at the end which at first you would think to cut it to allow easy wash out. It would get some suction going though if you used it just right and cutting the end open would've ruined it.

That one got found during a full room inspection in the barracks. Our one MSgt, who stole everyone's �naked people movies� and told �naked people movies� scenes like they were his own personal encounters, saw the box. Immediately his eyes were drawn to it. He opened the box, sees this plastic vagina looking at him, and burst out "WTF IS THIS?!" When I told him and said I used it often he dropped the box and ran to wash his hands while cursing and screaming. He proclaimed I was a "sick fuck" while everyone else was laughing at him.

Later that day he pulled me to the side and asked where I got it, then told me he never asked lol. No privacy in the barracks. At all.


The second was the Chasey Lain cyberskin ass and pussy. It was almost as wide as a woman's hips and was meant to be laid on top of and go to town. That was even more of a pain in the ass to clean because the 2 holes were connected to a 3rd hole and lube and cum would be everywhere. The bottom was thin and I eventually tore it. For feeling like the real thing though cyberskin is damn close. I don't think you could get any closer than that.
You seem to have experience and knowledge, so I want your opinion: What do you think about the Fuck Me sili Mega Masturbator? I saw the reviews and it looks so cool and turned me on, so I'm considering it.
 
IAmSpartacus71;727502 said:
That's very annoying how everybody thinks that smart people see themselves superiors or something... Like there is an hierarchy or a competition. Actually I would love to be dumb! I think dumb people have wayyyy better lives, because when you are smart you see the world the way it is: a shitty world. Every bad thing, every horror is bother you and you can't ignore it. However, when you dumb you don't see those bad things, even if they occur right in front of you, you just live your life and don't worry about anything.

You seem to have experience and knowledge, so I want your opinion: What do you think about the Fuck Me sili Mega Masturbator? I saw the reviews and it looks so cool and turned me on, so I'm considering it.

Been a few years since I've even looked at any toys. That being said as much fun as it'll be to play with cleaning still sucks. I'd give it a shot if I had one to try but I'm not dropping $200 on something like that. Personally I'd rather get a Fleshlight if I was going to get something. Little easier to clean, little easier to stash away. That's just me though.
 
IAmSpartacus71;727502 said:
That's very annoying how everybody thinks that smart people see themselves superiors or something... Like there is an hierarchy or a competition. Actually I would love to be dumb! I think dumb people have wayyyy better lives, because when you are smart you see the world the way it is: a shitty world. Every bad thing, every horror is bother you and you can't ignore it. However, when you dumb you don't see those bad things, even if they occur right in front of you, you just live your life and don't worry about anything.

You seem to have experience and knowledge, so I want your opinion: What do you think about the Fuck Me sili Mega Masturbator? I saw the reviews and it looks so cool and turned me on, so I'm considering it.

MMM now i see why i see everything so full of shit LOL Im not a smart guy tough hehehe..And well if you can get a fleshy Puss instead of that weird stuff JK
 
I harbor a secret: I don't like romance as it's a turn-off to me. It shouldn't be that way. Only "talking dirty" with a woman gets my dick hard. Softness and kissing make me uncomfortable (never figured out why).

I understand iamSparticus71: when you're horny as a dude, you deserve to have a moist pussy to fuck until you shoot your wad. Sex and love are not compatible for anyone.

Trust me - males "can" get nasty when they aren't poking pussy.

I have trouble taking advantage of a woman, but I am not begging for pussy, either. And prostitutes don't turn me on, as it's all for the money (they're not into "me". or my dick).

Admission: A few dudes have super sexy bodies, but sucking dick and fucking a dude's ass would bore me to tears (I am not homophobic: I didn't say "repulse").. I can't get into gay sex, no matter how "hot" I think another dude is. A sexy man is only arousing to me in a "competitive sense", if that makes any sense.

No, I am not attracted at all to chicks with dicks, like some dudes.

PE isn't for me to turn women on: it's for me to feel more masculine (I just said it!) and get approval from my buddies.

If I had to buy a sex doll, it'd be female with big tits. LOL.

I should visit a female sex surrogate.
 
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Jackxxx;727485 said:
Yeah I stopped almost 100%. My gains stopped around 2010. Kept training dedicated through 2011 and 2012. Since then it has been trying new routines but just long enough to asses results. Then last year I bought the LengthMaster but didn't use it consistently because I wanted to use it as part of a complete routine. Now Im putting the last details together to start that experiment. Meanwhile a month ago I started wearing my stretcher and pumping short sets to condition the tissues.

Good to know and thanks for getting back to me. So you are starting up anew?
 
If you are already too long you can go for even longer...

But a thing to think about is girth... If your base is huge but you cant use it is basicly "useless".
So lets say you have an 16 inch cock and the first 8 inches at your head are 3 girth and you taper down to 7 girth(lol) then you are basicly fucking with a 8x3in girth dick compared to the "only" 8in long guy that has a uniform 6 girth.

I already know through testing pussy that I dont want much more then my 7.9 length. I can bottom out in almost every woman and if her pussy is aroused and tented enough I can still go balls deep.
Some ladys rather be steamrolled by the 6x5.8 dampfhammer then gut needled by the 9by4 ;)
 
doublelongdaddy;727541 said:
Good to know and thanks for getting back to me. So you are starting up anew?

You're welcome brother!
Yes, Im starting a new routine, focus now for the first time in many years in hanging. Because before I never decided to buy a hanger, but finally last year I got the LengthMaster. It would be mostly hanging, extender, some pumping and the other half is classified for now, BUT I will share that recipe with you through PM due to your long experience and knowledge, it would be good to have your opinion and Id be more than glad to keep you up with updates.
 
dickerschwanz;727578 said:
If you are already too long you can go for even longer...

But a thing to think about is girth... If your base is huge but you cant use it is basicly "useless".
So lets say you have an 16 inch cock and the first 8 inches at your head are 3 girth and you taper down to 7 girth(lol) then you are basicly fucking with a 8x3in girth dick compared to the "only" 8in long guy that has a uniform 6 girth.

I already know through testing pussy that I dont want much more then my 7.9 length. I can bottom out in almost every woman and if her pussy is aroused and tented enough I can still go balls deep.
Some ladys rather be steamrolled by the 6x5.8 dampfhammer then gut needled by the 9by4 ;)


Thats true. I guess Im lucky in a way that my base is narrower than my mid shaft. The girth in my signature is mid shaft but in the base it narrows probably to 5.9" Id like to increase base girth though.
 
Jackxxx;727580 said:
Thats true. I guess Im lucky in a way that my base is narrower than my mid shaft. The girth in my signature is mid shaft but in the base it narrows probably to 5.9" Id like to increase base girth though.


I will trade in some of my big girth for a bit of length.LMAO
 
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