This 1cm is from the PE routines you went through. You caused it to lengthen and expanded. When you rested, and resumed PE just a bit more, the body recognizes that you need blood and fluid to go into the penis. What you gained through PE so far shows up when the penis got the blood and fluid it needs.

Keep the PE routines going until you permanently get it. It takes 6 months of gain and 3 to 6 months more to permanently cement it.
 
This 1cm is from the PE routines you went through. You caused it to lengthen and expanded. When you rested, and resumed PE just a bit more, the body recognizes that you need blood and fluid to go into the penis. What you gained through PE so far shows up when the penis got the blood and fluid it needs.
Now I am more confused. Did I lose it? I just got measure up now, and I am definitely thinner
 
Now I am more confused. Did I lose it? I just got measure up now, and I am definitely thinner
No, you didn't. You stopped, so the tissues try to restore itself back to its original length and girth. During the long resting process, the penis is trying to restore the penis elasticity back as much as it can. It appears to have lost, but it's not. It's still there. You'll see it immediately when you do 1 or 2 SSJ session to tell the body to show the penis size it's suppose to be at.
 
The thing is until 10 days ago I was ok!!!
No, you didn't. You stopped, so the tissues try to restore itself back to its original length and girth. During the long resting process, the penis is trying to restore the penis elasticity back as much as it can. It appears to have lost, but it's not. It's still there. You'll see it immediately when you do 1 or 2 SSJ session to tell the body to show the penis size it's suppose to be at.
Okay so I still got time right? Okay I understand.
 
The thing is until 10 days ago I was ok!!!

Okay so I still got time right? Okay I understand.
Yes. Plenty of time. Just don't let the rest period stay too long. Nothing more than a month to be safe. The closer you are to a month and approaches 3 months, you'll see the lost because it wasn't fully cemented.
 
Okay. So that means that actually, I have gained girth. The 1 cm that I lost is the result of the gained girth that I did not give attention to and I thought it was my original size. Am I right?
 
Okay. So that means that actually, I have gained girth. The 1 cm that I lost is the result of the gained girth that I did not give attention to and I thought it was my original size. Am I right?
Correct.
 
I dont understand. Does this "1 cm" belongs to me or was the result of continuus PE? And Now that I have stopped it dissapeared? Is there a way to make it mine again?

It belongs to you. Resume PE and you will gain it back and also gain more.
 
Hello Guys,
I have stopped PE quite a time now, but I am curious about one thing.
Recently, I read a post where a guy, was using phallosan forte (12+ hours a day) and bathmate (15 mins a day) and he got 1.5 inch in length and 0.5 inches in girth. The thing is, that the guy was very detailed in his journey. He posted daily his routine with results and after 6 months he got these results. He stated that after that, he reached a plateu but ... how true can this be? I need to ask this. I mean, we know that phallosan can indeed add some length to penis but...in combination with bathmate he added girth?
Can someone reply me this question scientifically?
 
Good to hear from you brother.

I have stopped PE quite a time now, but I am curious about one thing.
Recently, I read a post where a guy, was using phallosan forte (12+ hours a day) and bathmate (15 mins a day) and he got 1.5 inch in length and 0.5 inches in girth.
This is a common traction device wearing time, with recommended pumping. Needs by both devices.

The thing is, that the guy was very detailed in his journey. He posted daily his routine with results and after 6 months he got these results. He stated that after that, he reached a plateu but ... how true can this be?
It's actually an average value. He's actually using a dual-method approach to gain the length, while only allowing his girth to grow around 15%. The remaining 85% is focused on length. The reason why he reached plateau is because the Forte+ cannot add any more traction force past 2.8kg for the initial wearing of 2 hours before switching back down to 2.1kg for the remaining 10 hours. Once your penile tissues reached an adaptive period where the tissues get stronger and thicker, you have to push your traction force past 5kg and upwards toward 10kg to break the tissues. The Forte+ and manual hand stetches cannot do that. This is where the LengthMaster 3 - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging comes into play.

I need to ask this. I mean, we know that phallosan can indeed add some length to penis but...in combination with bathmate he added girth?
Can someone reply me this question scientifically?
If you look back on all the posts where we use both LM3 and the pump, we try to cause the penile tissues to stretch long through length stretches, and then stretch out using the pump. Length is gained through long stretches, and girth is gained through stretching out. But the funny thing is, when you combine them together, you get more length gains over girth if you add all day extender/traction device. Why? When you gain a bit of girth as the tissues expand, and then you wear the extender device, you convert 85% of the expanded tissues from pumping meant for girth and convert it to length development.
 
Good to hear from you brother.


This is a common traction device wearing time, with recommended pumping. Needs by both devices.


It's actually an average value. He's actually using a dual-method approach to gain the length, while only allowing his girth to grow around 15%. The remaining 85% is focused on length. The reason why he reached plateau is because the Forte+ cannot add any more traction force past 2.8kg for the initial wearing of 2 hours before switching back down to 2.1kg for the remaining 10 hours. Once your penile tissues reached an adaptive period where the tissues get stronger and thicker, you have to push your traction force past 5kg and upwards toward 10kg to break the tissues. The Forte+ and manual hand stetches cannot do that. This is where the LM3 comes into play.


If you look back on all the posts where we use both LM3 and the pump, we try to cause the penile tissues to stretch long through length stretches, and then stretch out using the pump. Length is gained through long stretches, and girth is gained through stretching out. But the funny thing is, when you combine them together, you get more length gains over girth if you add all day extender/traction device. Why? When you gain a bit of girth as the tissues expand, and then you wear the extender device, you convert 85% of the expanded tissues from pumping meant for girth and convert it to length development.
Yes but, will you gain those 0.5' inches in girth? I mean, is it possible? If it is ...it is really convenient.. You get my point?
Also I have read about a methond of using pshot + Dr. Joel Kaplan’s Vacuum Device + The RestoreX Traction Device + Nitric Oxide Boosting Supplements. They also claim 1 inch in length and 0.5' in girth in 6 months. Is it true?

If it is true, whats the difference combining just LengthMaster 3 - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging + MityVac - Wet and Dry Penis Vacuum Pump System?
 
Yes but, will you gain those 0.5' inches in girth? I mean, is it possible? If it is ...it is really convenient.. You get my point?
Just like before, to gain girth properly, you must follow the PE methods of having a full erection during pumping. For those having ED, you will not or barely gain girth. The Bathmate is designed to help in getting back your erection from ED issues. The side benefit is to gain girth if and only if you can get full erection during pumping. This is why the Girth program (SRT 5x5x3) routine comes out to maximize the girth gain while pumping. BUT, it all relies on how hard of an erection you can achieve during pumping. To gain girth, you have to expand internally. The pump cannot help internal expansion without a full erection. The pump helps to draw blood in. Your full erection helps to expand the blood further.


Also I have read about a methond of using pshot + Dr. Joel Kaplan’s Vacuum Device + The RestoreX Traction Device + Nitric Oxide Boosting Supplements. They also claim 1 inch in length and 0.5' in girth in 6 months. Is it true?
This is a claim. This is not clinically recorded by more than 1000 users. The results are from sporadic users that were willing to go past 2 years of trials. Imagine 1000 users of this combination started out, but only 10 to 20 users were completing this after 2 full years. They use it to average the results out. You get some weird averages from just 10 to 20 users. These are known as hyped outliers.

If it is true, whats the difference combining just lengthmaster 3 + Mityvac?
LengthMaster - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging + MityVac are the same. LengthMaster helps with length. MityVac helps with girth. LengthMaster is a leverage traction device to break tissues faster within 30 to 60 minutes compared to a traction device that requires at least 3 hours to break a small amount of tissues. The LengthMaster can adjust the traction tension from 1kg to as high as 50kg based on your arm and hand strength. it can perform twisting/contortion, and various angles ranging from front to back side (between the cheeks) stretches. This is the optimal stretches to losen the muscles and ligaments for additional gains.

The MityVac, like the Bathmate, helps with ED. Bathmate does not have a gauge, so it's quite dangerous right out of the box. You need to know your pressure you're using at all time. The "feel of pressure is where you can damange your penis immediately since your brain shuts off the painful traumas to protect itself from passing out/fainting. BUT, to gain girth, the main requirement is for you to have at least 80% erection capacity. That means you need to achieve at least 80% to allow blood to enter your penis. At 80% erection, the pump can help to pull the remaining 20% of the needed blood, and further pushes the extra 10% to 30% blood volume needed to expand internally. The Bathmate does the same. The advantage for the pump with a gauge is to monitor the needed pressure for the blood to enter the penis safely, and expand SAFELY. Everything is about safety. If you cannot keep your erection up from 80% and greater, your expansion for the girth will be limited to none at all. All it does is to help with ED by introducting new fresh blood to repair damaged blood vessels or nerves.

So, if you have ED, you can gain length, but the chance of gaining girth is 50/50, or even lower based on the severity of your ED.
 
Just like before, to gain girth properly, you must follow the PE methods of having a full erection during pumping. For those having ED, you will not or barely gain girth. The Bathmate is designed to help in getting back your erection from ED issues. The side benefit is to gain girth if and only if you can get full erection during pumping. This is why the 5x5x3 routine comes out to maximize the girth gain while pumping. BUT, it all relies on how hard of an erection you can achieve during pumping. To gain girth, you have to expand internally. The pump cannot help internal expansion without a full erection. The pump helps to draw blood in. Your full erection helps to expand the blood further.



This is a claim. This is not clinically recorded by more than 1000 users. The results are from sporadic users that were willing to go past 2 years of trials. Imagine 1000 users of this combination started out, but only 10 to 20 users were completing this after 2 full years. They use it to average the results out. You get some weird averages from just 10 to 20 users. These are known as hyped outliers.


LengthMaster + MityVac are the same. LengthMaster helps with length. MityVac helps with girth. LengthMaster is a leverage traction device to break tissues faster within 30 to 60 minutes compared to a traction device that requires at least 3 hours to break a small amount of tissues. The LengthMaster can adjust the traction tension from 1kg to as high as 50kg based on your arm and hand strength. it can perform twisting/contortion, and various angles ranging from front to back side (between the cheeks) stretches. This is the optimal stretches to losen the muscles and ligaments for additional gains.

The MityVac, like the Bathmate, helps with ED. Bathmate does not have a gauge, so it's quite dangerous right out of the box. You need to know your pressure you're using at all time. The "feel of pressure is where you can damange your penis immediately since your brain shuts off the painful traumas to protect itself from passing out/fainting. BUT, to gain girth, the main requirement is for you to have at least 80% erection capacity. That means you need to achieve at least 80% to allow blood to enter your penis. At 80% erection, the pump can help to pull the remaining 20% of the needed blood, and further pushes the extra 10% to 30% blood volume needed to expand internally. The Bathmate does the same. The advantage for the pump with a gauge is to monitor the needed pressure for the blood to enter the penis safely, and expand SAFELY. Everything is about safety. If you cannot keep your erection up from 80% and greater, your expansion for the girth will be limited to none at all. All it does is to help with ED by introducting new fresh blood to repair damaged blood vessels or nerves.

So, if you have ED, you can gain length, but the chance of gaining girth is 50/50, or even lower based on the severity of your ED.
Yes but the plong program has pshots for some reason (that i do not understand)
 
Just read a report from phalback (that miraclous device) they now state on their site that they help with ED and erections.
So much hype for nothing. Just mentioning it.
The only known routine is 5x5x3 but thats so difficult to do it.
 
Yes but the plong program has pshots for some reason (that i do not understand)
We need to understand something before we select p-shot into the program.

P-shot is merely using your own plasma extracted from your blood to fill up your chambers. In the cavernosa and spongiosum, it's not just empty space. There are micro blood vessels that fill into those chambers, like tiny balloons full of blood within larger balloons, Those larger balloons have empty spaces as well, and those empty spaces are being used by the body as buffering air and fluid to prevent sudden pressure drops and rises. They empty space also acts as cushion spaces to prevent sudden impact traumas. Imagine if you get hit by some object while your penis is rock hard. The empty space acts like your air bags for the micro blood vessels.

The P-shot simply fills up everything. I mean everything. It fills up the micro blood vessels, the empty spaces, and even part of the fascias (the skin layers) When you start pumping, the blood that enters your micro blood vessels start to exand immediately. Rather than force your erection to 100% all the time, those with ED issues only need to get the penis up to around 40% of the time. But as soon as the blood drains out, some of the plasma will drain out with the blood. This is why P-shots are always needed every few weeks to a few months. Instead of 40% erection, after a couple of weeks, you need to get your erection up to 80% to make up for the lost of the plasma volume.

For those who are healthy and don't have ED issues, by using the P-shot, when they have a full erection, the are pushing their blood volume past 100% without pumping. When they pump, instead of 110% expansion, their expansion may shot past 170% expansion. This is painful. This is also dangerous as their penises may not be able to handle extreme expansion. Some reported that their blood vessels bursted inside the penis chambers and requires months to years to heal.

Hope this explains things about the P-shots and the pumping.
 
Just read a report from phalback (that miraclous device) they now state on their site that they help with ED and erections.
So much hype for nothing. Just mentioning it.
The only known routine is 5x5x3 but thats so difficult to do it.
This is all hype. Why? ED requires more than just penile lengthening and girth expansion through intense force. The device pressure was reported by users going up past 60inHg for 5 to 10 seconds. That is pure madness for those who just started out in PE. That is one way to destroy your penis real fast. When the penis is over stretched, it causes the nerves to overstretched and causing blood vessels to suffer heavy traumas from 7cm of pulling without first pre-conditioning the penis. Pure insanity. How can it helps with ED? It may help with Peyronie's by breaking the plagues, but not ED.
 
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Hello Guys,
I have stopped PE quite a time now, but I am curious about one thing.
Recently, I read a post where a guy, was using phallosan forte (12+ hours a day) and bathmate (15 mins a day) and he got 1.5 inch in length and 0.5 inches in girth. The thing is, that the guy was very detailed in his journey. He posted daily his routine with results and after 6 months he got these results. He stated that after that, he reached a plateu but ... how true can this be? I need to ask this. I mean, we know that phallosan can indeed add some length to penis but...in combination with bathmate he added girth?
Can someone reply me this question scientifically?
Ignore any promises and comparing to anyone, the most important thing is to find what works for you. Ads might be great for you! but you won't know if you don't try. Try all things.
 
You need to love and appreciate where you are. With proper training your penis will become bigger. But without that love of self gains will suffer. Comparing yourself to others is worthless you need to accept where you are and doing whatever you need to do to grow.
 
How's your penile condition after the stopping with PE? Did you stop completely or maintained?

If you stopped completely, did you see any loss/regression without cementing?
 
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