Kong, are you saying it is ethical and acceptable to send a child information that says he will likely become a rapist, turn gay, and become suicidal because he's circumcised, in order to recruit him? Let me repeat that, these groups happily inform young teenagers that being circumcised may make them develop a desire to rape women! I don't think you're being fair. If I had a son and somebody sent him crap like that I'd be looking at a grounds for a lawsuit.
We're laughing at that guy because he's clearly selling that
tugger thing. If he wanted to just chip in an opinion he didn't have to include a link to his product sales site (and even a free bonus give away!). He can say whatever he wants here, I welcome it, but I do believe that you're intentionally ignoring the fact that he's selling a product.
And Kong, everybody is trying ot make an effort to keep things more civil except for you. I have seen several posts now (since you brought in other mods to threaten bans on your critics) where you take an aggressive and insulting tone for no reason. Nothing I have said in this thread has warranted it.
"This is so funny! I can't believe you guys are trying to slap down Ron Low, one of the most well-known and respected figures in the restoration/anti-circ movement. You guys are so biased it's pathetic. You cry free speech and use lowdown tactics to try to run everyone off. Lowdown tactics? What do you mean? How about pages and pages of blatant rhetoric, derision, lies, and mind-numbingly boring text that is meant only to turn off casual readers and send them elsewhere."
How does your opinion of the "tactics" and such formerly used contribute to anything happening with this conversation? What has that got to do with the anti-circ movement we're trying to discuss here? It's just a quick opportunity to throw some insults out and effectively says nothing.
At least offer some proof where I have been lieing if you're going to call me a liar. If I said the same of you right now, how would you react? Not well if past experience is any indicator.
And just because I post in a clear manner and explain myself in full doesn't mean I'm trying to keep people from reading. If you recall, I encourage men to read the threads in whole as much as possible.
In this thread I have done nothing except try to conduct an informative and intelligent discussion on the issue, and yet you're still running around making statements like that. You were the one who complained loudly and frequently about the tone of the posts - now hold yourself to the rules you have demanded.
If I, or anyone else, had posted about you in the same fashion that you just did, I do believe you would go berszerk.
I honestly think it's pretty lame to cry foul for so long, then when everybody has stepped in to make an effort, you're the only taking potshots.
As a moderator and the person that demanded intervention from the mod team on your behalf, your conduct at the moment is deplorable, and the irony of you calling others 'hypocrites' is in fact rather hilarious.