Silistretcher vs Stealth Stretcher?

[thedudefather]

Nah, just invest 8 hours of training a day and you will too can enjoy enlargement as I have.

I've decided this morning that I'm going to do 2x a day length routine because I have so much time in the afternoons now that there is no reason not to.

Only question is: should I do the same stretches, or have my afternoon session be different?

 

[DLD]

I've decided this morning that I'm going to do 2x a day length routine because I have so much time in the afternoons now that there is no reason not to.

Only question is: should I do the same stretches, or have my afternoon session be different?

That is the perfect way forward. I would switch up stretches for each session. For instance if you have a LengthMaster do LM stretches for one session and use PowerAssist for the other.

 

[thedudefather]

That is the perfect way forward. I would switch up stretches for each session. For instance if you have a LengthMaster do LM stretches for one session and use PowerAssist for the other.

I alternated between bundled hanging and bundled btc for 30 mins.

But tomorrow I will do power assist stretches for sure.

Since adding the extra half bundle, I've been feeling soreness in my inner penis every single day.

 

[DLD]

TTh

I alternated between bundled hanging and bundled btc for 30 mins.

But tomorrow I will do power assist stretches for sure.

Since adding the extra half bundle, I've been feeling soreness in my inner penis every single day.

That is great, soreness means progress and should not stop your traing. I think it is smart going together with LengthMaster and PowerAssist. Let us know how goes.

 

[thedudefather]

TTh

That is great, soreness means progress and should not stop your traing. I think it is smart going together with LengthMaster and PowerAssist. Let us know how goes.

I definitely will!

I love the soreness feeling haha

 

[DLD]

I definitely will!

I love the soreness feeling haha

I love the soreness it shows you that you are gaining.

 

[thedudefather]

I love the soreness it shows you that you are gaining.

Best feeling in the world, next to seeing your measurements go up!

 

[DLD]

Best feeling in the world, next to seeing your measurements go up!

Agree

 

[thedudefather]

Questions for the veterans brothers - lately when I've been stretching with lengthmaster, I feel two things :
1) my skin feels like it's almost tearing. Is this a wrapping issue?

2) i get a bit more resistance when bundling clockwise vs counter, is there anything I can do to help loosen up just the one side?

 

[oldandlively]

Questions for the veterans brothers - lately when I've been stretching with lengthmaster, I feel two things :
1) my skin feels like it's almost tearing. Is this a wrapping issue?

Where does the feeling of the tear occur and how much travel movement from the position where it was strapped at vs where it moved to during tractioned movement. Think of when you hit the brakes real hard and when you come to a skidding stop. This travel distance is your skin stressing distance. The longer it travels, the more stress on the skin you will have.

2) i get a bit more resistance when bundling clockwise vs counter, is there anything I can do to help loosen up just the one side?

When you strap on the plates, tilt the plates more on the side of clockwise rotation. Your scrotal tissue connection point is the one that causes the resistance.

 

[thedudefather]

Where does the feeling of the tear occur and how much travel movement from the position where it was strapped at vs where it moved to during tractioned movement. Think of when you hit the brakes real hard and when you come to a skidding stop. This travel distance is your skin stressing distance. The longer it travels, the more stress on the skin you will have.


When you strap on the plates, tilt the plates more on the side of clockwise rotation. Your scrotal tissue connection point is the one that causes the resistance.

It mostly feels like the skin is just getting stretched to the point of tearing, no actual skin breaking but definitely point tenderness around the lower underside of my shaft. Almost feels like a rug burn even though there's no wrapping at that location.

And is there any way to address the scrotal connection issue? Or is that just what it is?

 

[oldandlively]

It mostly feels like the skin is just getting stretched to the point of tearing, no actual skin breaking but definitely point tenderness around the lower underside of my shaft. Almost feels like a rug burn even though there's no wrapping at that location.

Got it. This is when your foreskin is not stretching at the pace of your penile length gains. I remembered that in the past a few brothers suffered this. When you strapped the plates on, and as you do your moderate level pull, pay attention on how much skin is moving. If there's not a whole lot of skin moving as you stretch, your tunica length gains is more than your foreskin allowed to stretch. This is the rug burn effect. Try to initiate the ball stretching as well to add extra foreskin to your total length.

And is there any way to address the scrotal connection issue? Or is that just what it is?

Ball and lig stretch. That's the only way. Other than that, strap the plates over the area where the skin feels like it's over stretching, and perform a 5 to 10 minutes foreskin stretching exercise using light to moderate traction tension. Man, this brings back so much memory of the foreskin issues.

 

[thedudefather]

Got it. This is when your foreskin is not stretching at the pace of your penile length gains. I remembered that in the past a few brothers suffered this. When you strapped the plates on, and as you do your moderate level pull, pay attention on how much skin is moving. If there's not a whole lot of skin moving as you stretch, your tunica length gains is more than your foreskin allowed to stretch. This is the rug burn effect. Try to initiate the ball stretching as well to add extra foreskin to your total length.



Ball and lig stretch. That's the only way. Other than that, strap the plates over the area where the skin feels like it's over stretching, and perform a 5 to 10 minutes foreskin stretching exercise using light to moderate traction tension. Man, this brings back so much memory of the foreskin issues.

I don't have a foreskin, I'm rocking a convertible

And I was really hoping to not have to do any ball stretches because I actually had a doctor tell me my balls hang too low and that was the cause of my testicular pain a few years back. When fully relaxed, my balls hang about 6-7" and the doc said it was causing epididymitis

 

[oldandlively]

I don't have a foreskin, I'm rocking a convertible

and there you have it brother. Your foreskin is shorter than your tunica length gains. this is why you're having a hard time. If that's the case, my suggestion is to stretch your skin by holding below the glans and near the base, stretching the foreskin in two different direction. At the base of the glans, pull to the tip of your glans. At the base, pull towards your scrotal sac. This way, you don't have to stretch your scrotal sac and causes further elongation of the scrotum.

And I was really hoping to not have to do any ball stretches because I actually had a doctor tell me my balls hang too low and that was the cause of my testicular pain a few years back. When fully relaxed, my balls hang about 6-7" and the doc said it was causing epididymitis

Offmmmp...Yep. This is one of the worst feeling. Great in slapping that female crotch and butt, but not so much for your scrotal pain. I know your pain brother.

 

[thedudefather]

and there you have it brother. Your foreskin is shorter than your tunica length gains. this is why you're having a hard time. If that's the case, my suggestion is to stretch your skin by holding below the glans and near the base, stretching the foreskin in two different direction. At the base of the glans, pull to the tip of your glans. At the base, pull towards your scrotal sac. This way, you don't have to stretch your scrotal sac and causes further elongation of the scrotum.



Offmmmp...Yep. This is one of the worst feeling. Great in slapping that female crotch and butt, but not so much for your scrotal pain. I know your pain brother.

So basically stretch from the middle out? Like those old school new years noise poppers you pulled from both ends?

And yeah, took 2 checkups, an ultrasound and a large Russian doctor palpitating my scrotum to figure that one out

 

[oldandlively]

So basically stretch from the middle out? Like those old school new years noise poppers you pulled from both ends?

Exactly! Or is it Chinese finger torturer sleeve?

And yeah, took 2 checkups, an ultrasound and a large Russian doctor palpitating my scrotum to figure that one out

Dang. Could have told you that just from standard diagnostic.

 

[DLD]

 

[thedudefather]

Exactly! Or is it Chinese finger torturer sleeve?



Dang. Could have told you that just from standard diagnostic.

Haha sweet, I know exactly what to do

And my gp at the time was a fresh faced 20something that I'm pretty sure was just out of med school

 

[DLD]

Haha sweet, I know exactly what to do

And my gp at the time was a fresh faced 20something that I'm pretty sure was just out of med school

 

[thedudefather]

@oldandlively great fucking advice on the middle out stretching, definitely a major help. Thank you!

 

[DLD]

@oldandlively great fucking advice on the middle out stretching, definitely a major help. Thank you!

Brothers helping Brothers that is what we are about. I am so glad Oldandlively advice helped you.

God bless you

 

[thedudefather]

So my current routine is lengthmaster in the morning and 5x5x3 length pumping at night every other day.

Should I be doing a second lengthmaster session before jumping into the pump?

@DLD @oldandlively any thoughts/tips?

Feeling like I've plateau'd a bit lately but not sure

 

[oldandlively]

So my current routine is lengthmaster in the morning and 5x5x3 length pumping at night every other day.

Should I be doing a second lengthmaster session before jumping into the pump?

@DLD @oldandlively any thoughts/tips?

Feeling like I've plateau'd a bit lately but not sure

If you want a more effective pump session, say, larger expansion through lateral tissue breakdown, then a quick 5 minutes in the length master is your best choice. If not, just a few quick minutes doing manual stretches to loosen the tissues for better pumping. There is no wrong way.

 

[thedudefather]

If you want a more effective pump session, say, larger expansion through lateral tissue breakdown, then a quick 5 minutes in the length master is your best choice. If not, just a few quick minutes doing manual stretches to loosen the tissues for better pumping. There is no wrong way.

Got it, thank you.

Also, I read somewhere (I think on here or maybe that reddish site) that doing a set of Medium to heavy hanging before stretching will help create more micro tears?

Any truth to this or is it just inviting an injury?

 

[oldandlively]

Also, I read somewhere (I think on here or maybe that reddish site) that doing a set of Medium to heavy hanging before stretching will help create more micro tears?

Any truth to this or is it just inviting an injury?

Big invitation to injuries for the unconditioned penises, but beneficial for the ones already conditioned. The question is, how do you know the penis is conditioned? The quickest answer is, "The penis with at least 6 months of conditioning that already exceeded 6lbs of hanging."

If you take the brother that has been hanging since 2.5lbs initial weight, with 0.5lb adjustment of incremental weight every 3 to 4 weeks, hanging every 3 to 4 days per week, then yes, in that 6 months period, the penis is preconditiones for the hang before the pump. It's practically the Length Master in action.

However, the limitation is the lateral torsion or contortion (twisting as a simple term) exercise to break the tissues even faster, with less pulling power requirements to break the tunica. Adding dynamic tension on the pulls while the penis is under torsional stresses maximize the tissue breakdown over hanging.

Oh, we can go into discussions about this all day long and we have scientific data to back it up if you like. But that is a decision for each brother to believe in or reject to.

 

[thedudefather]

Big invitation to injuries for the unconditioned penises, but beneficial for the ones already conditioned. The question is, how do you know the penis is conditioned? The quickest answer is, "The penis with at least 6 months of conditioning that already exceeded 6lbs of hanging."

If you take the brother that has been hanging since 2.5lbs initial weight, with 0.5lb adjustment of incremental weight every 3 to 4 weeks, hanging every 3 to 4 days per week, then yes, in that 6 months period, the penis is preconditiones for the hang before the pump. It's practically the Length Master in action.

However, the limitation is the lateral torsion or contortion (twisting as a simple term) exercise to break the tissues even faster, with less pulling power requirements to break the tunica. Adding dynamic tension on the pulls while the penis is under torsional stresses maximize the tissue breakdown over hanging.

Oh, we can go into discussions about this all day long and we have scientific data to back it up if you like. But that is a decision for each brother to believe in or reject to.

That makes total sense.

I have two water bottles that I use - a 64oz and 128oz, which are around 4 and 8lbs respectively.

I did a set with each today, bundling both clockwise and counterclockwise for 2m30s per side, and felt like it gave a great pre-exhaustion for my regular routine.

Now, I haven't done a hanging routine before, aside from testing it out once or twice over the years, but I feel like I've done enough PE to be conditioned for it.

I'll try to remember to give updates on this addition to my routine. I think today showed it will be beneficial in the long run.

 

[thedudefather]

I do have another question:

When i pump, the only fluid buildup i get is around my foreskin scar, just under my glans.

No matter how much I try to focus my ssj to expand there, I keep getting that buildup.

Any tips?

 

[DLD]

I do have another question:

When i pump, the only fluid buildup i get is around my foreskin scar, just under my glans.

No matter how much I try to focus my ssj to expand there, I keep getting that buildup.

Any tips?

That is normal to most who pump. Are you doing the 5x5x3? This is important as it is timed perfectly to battle these issues. If that is too much go with a 3x3x3 or 2x2x3.

 

[thedudefather]

That is normal to most who pump. Are you doing the 5x5x3? This is important as it is timed perfectly to battle these issues. If that is too much go with a 3x3x3 or 2x2x3.

I'm doing 5x5x3.

I have also noticed that the upper part of my shaft takes longer to pack the tube than the lower portion, so maybe that has something to do with it? Especially on the underside

 

[oldandlively]

I do have another question:

When i pump, the only fluid buildup i get is around my foreskin scar, just under my glans.

No matter how much I try to focus my ssj to expand there, I keep getting that buildup.

Any tips?

When you have a circumcision or surgical procedure on the foreskin, that area would and will be acting as a the weakest point of the shaft as the fluid tends to build up around the scarring fascias (skin layers) around the compromised tissues. Drainage from those areas are also compromised.

Two methods to prevent fluid from building around that compromised area. First is the wrapping of a flexible film, such as Theraband or similar flexible wrap silicone/polyvinyl material. See how Theraband is used so much in in PE? By wrapping around the compromised area 1 inch above and 1 inch below, you're allow the quicker displacement of fluid from forming at the affected area. You have to wrap loosely during flaccid state, or you can get erected, and wrap lightly around it. When your penis is in the pump, it will cause a compression around the area within the first pumping set.

The second method is creating a compression wrap during SSJ. By wrapping the compression layer using Theraband or flexible bandage, you are forcing the fluid to displace faster during your SSJ exercise.

I'm doing 5x5x3.

I have also noticed that the upper part of my shaft takes longer to pack the tube than the lower portion, so maybe that has something to do with it? Especially on the underside

No. This is more common than most of us think. The base is always larger than the top as it's created like so naturally to support accidental penile fracture. You be surprise how many brothers suffered penile factures during vigorous sexual activities because their shaft is thick at the top and skinnier at the bottom. This is why we encourage to use cylinder type similar to the MityVac, one size up at a time. Bathmate is infamous in making the bottom massively large and the upper smaller due to the conical design. MityVac and similar cylinders are uniform from bottom to top. Select one size up as you go. If you're at 5in in girth, select 5.25in in diameter to create a uniform increase, then upgrade the next cylinder to 5.5in, then 5.75in, and finally 6in. I have 4 cylinders right now because of uniform workout. I also cheat by have a 6.75in cylinder to make my glans over expand to create a mushroom head that my wife likes.

 

[DLD]

When you have a circumcision or surgical procedure on the foreskin, that area would and will be acting as a the weakest point of the shaft as the fluid tends to build up around the scarring fascias (skin layers) around the compromised tissues. Drainage from those areas are also compromised.

Two methods to prevent fluid from building around that compromised area. First is the wrapping of a flexible film, such as Theraband or similar flexible wrap silicone/polyvinyl material. See how Theraband is used so much in in PE? By wrapping around the compromised area 1 inch above and 1 inch below, you're allow the quicker displacement of fluid from forming at the affected area. You have to wrap loosely during flaccid state, or you can get erected, and wrap lightly around it. When your penis is in the pump, it will cause a compression around the area within the first pumping set.

The second method is creating a compression wrap during SSJ. By wrapping the compression layer using Theraband or flexible bandage, you are forcing the fluid to displace faster during your SSJ exercise.



No. This is more common than most of us think. The base is always larger than the top as it's created like so naturally to support accidental penile fracture. You be surprise how many brothers suffered penile factures during vigorous sexual activities because their shaft is thick at the top and skinnier at the bottom. This is why we encourage to use cylinder type similar to the MityVac, one size up at a time. Bathmate is infamous in making the bottom massively large and the upper smaller due to the conical design. MityVac and similar cylinders are uniform from bottom to top. Select one size up as you go. If you're at 5in in girth, select 5.25in in diameter to create a uniform increase, then upgrade the next cylinder to 5.5in, then 5.75in, and finally 6in. I have 4 cylinders right now because of uniform workout. I also cheat by have a 6.75in cylinder to make my glans over expand to create a mushroom head that my wife likes.

Excellent post!