I've been doing p.e. since 2000, with a few breaks here and there. I've noticed many times that hours after I've completed a pump session, my flaccid size will be noticably smaller than before my session began. I've tried different types of pumps, including the Bathmate, with nothing permanent. This has also happened to me when hanging different types of weights from my penis. I recently tried hanging steel rings around my shaft, but found that golf weights made for a better stretch. The only thing that hasn't made me shrink is manual stretching, jelqing/jelq variations. I would think in theory that pumping/hanging would be superior to manual work, but not so in my case, which is puzzling. Has anybody else experienced this similar phenomenon of shrinkage hours after pumping or hanging as I would surely like to make gains instead of losing what I already have?